Zackman [LDEV] Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Heya! With the latest patch there was also faction changes. Like figured ingame they are not 100% working like they should. This posting is to inform you, that it gets fixed asap and we will also offer a way to restore Progen Combine and Alliance faction for Moto access. Also, killing Chavez affecting your own faction will get fixed and values will be corrected. So dont worry about wrong values for now as they are not here to stay.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zackman [LDEV] Posted August 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Heya! First fix is in, killing Chavez wont harm your own faction anymore (already active on server). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryle [N7R] Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) The EarthCorps bug is still in. See screen. Kill a chavez, tank faction to -3000 immediate, every kill thereafter drops you more, remember you fixed me back to +9999 Zack? This was after I read your above post about the fix. [img]http://i.imgur.com/jGxqq.jpg[/img] Edited August 21, 2012 by Ryle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryle [N7R] Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) I wonder if the display is outputting the earthcorps faction as your chavez faction, because according to the net7 site my chavez faction is now also -3191. Its almost as if EC is sorta mirroring the chavez once you kill one. Weird weird bug. My EC faction is in fact tanked tho, player TEs are showing up as red to me again. Edited August 21, 2012 by Ryle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zackman [LDEV] Posted August 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Morning, we will investigate this asap and fix it. Its probably just a minor thing code wise, so no hard fix. Tnx for the support Ryle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryle [N7R] Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Cool beans man, just want it working is all. Also if you get a chance to refix my EC faction again id appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zackman [LDEV] Posted August 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Heya! Ya, was a small bug (code wise) and is fixed now. I will ask Rolo if he can get the fix to live soon:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryle [N7R] Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 awesome, will that fix the loss of faction those who got hit by the bug recieved as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zackman [LDEV] Posted August 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 The faction values are not affected ANYMORE(!) after the fix. We will now start to add something to the portal so you can fix yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zackman [LDEV] Posted August 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Heya ! Ok, very soon(tm) we will offer (Portal) the function to restore all factions to the pre-wipe values, so you can restore "home faction", Progen Combine, Alliance etc. You will be able to restore to values as of "somewhere in July" (sorry, dont have a stamp on that file). I used that backup so we dont have to wait any longer, hope thats fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lot Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Appeciate the buttons on the portal to retro-fix faction values but there are several issues with the new faction system. Missing factions in game and out of game on portal: Progen Combine, Glenn Commission, Chavez Progen Combine and Terran Alliance are the Moto war zone factions it is essential to be able to see both factions. I have heard that the faction list after the reset was based on what it was in live (a very loose guesstimate in that case if true) -- well I thought live had both Glenn and Chavez. Terran Alliance is an emulator faction for Moto, just like Progen Combine and didnt exist in live but one is on the new faction list but the other is not. Basing the new faction list on live is the wrong idea anyway it should always be what we need to see. We need to see Glenn Commission so that we can all work on faction for building at Friendship 7. Profession group faction set to only +7,500 while other two racial factions are +9,999 -- probably ought to be the other way around. For example, a Progen Warrior has Centuriata set to +7,500 since the reset but has Sabine and Collegia both set at +9,999. It appears that all professions, all races seem have had the same mistake applied to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lot Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Mordana -- everyone should start off neutral with them, right? I am seeing -9,000 post-reset value ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryle [N7R] Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Chavez never had a formal faction but they behaved like one. You started yellow and eventually went red. They had no alliances tho, killing them gave you postive to everything but like vrix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lot Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 [quote name='Ryle' timestamp='1345698470' post='62194'] Chavez never had a formal faction but they behaved like one. You started yellow and eventually went red. They had no alliances tho, killing them gave you postive to everything but like vrix [/quote] It may matter eventually in the emulator to be able to see Chavez faction numerically, like you could before the reset, if Chavez factioned gates are added as expected in Paramis that will lead to a Chavez controlled system. May be the pirate gate in Odin Rex will become Chavez factioned too instead of being RD. And besides, if the numeric values for factions become obscured how do we test and provide feedback that the adjustments through killing enemies of the faction work right. Watching the colour coding of the mobs will not be adequate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryle [N7R] Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) I dont disagree on that point, and in fact i was seeing chavez faction in the net7 website but it doesnt show in game. i havent checked since the fixes to the mess but it was there before Edit: Its still showing in the net7 faction tab on my toons 4 Chavez -8,440 Edited August 23, 2012 by Ryle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zackman [LDEV] Posted August 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Morning ! The faction list is now like it was on live except "Unknown". [attachment=1795:factionchart.gif] Chavez was no listed faction. They planned to bring them in, but sunset announcement was faster. Glenn Commission was no faction like the others, it was only affectable by missions/jobs. Maybe we can add them to the list, i need to check the limit again. Progen Combine: Maybe we can add them to the list, i need to check the limit again. Mordana: Not correct LOT, they were (eg.) red to the Centuriata on start. The values are used now are the values the team made up a long time ago, if you know they are wrong and/or have reliable infos how they should be, please post them and we can fix incorrect starter values Homefaction: Ryle suggested a button to restore them Hullupgrade level dependend. Lets count: HU 10 (no faction), 50, 75, 100, 135, 150 5 Updates with factions, is this correct? Each HU is 500 so 500 * 5 = 2500 7500 starter, 2500 HU....10.000 (capped 9999 in game), sounds right? Its 7500 for "some" and 9999 for others because the server didnt know the achivement of an toon after faction reset, so the initial value was/is generated. Let me check if we can add a button adding 500 pts. per HU to the toon, based on level. [i]Ryle, you can see Chavez on the portal from when it was saving on patch day (the bug).[/i] [i]They are "dead" and get deleted from DB soon.[/i] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryle [N7R] Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) HU30 also and no 150. 10/30/50/75/100/135 and yes 10 did give you faction. Basically the way it worked out was youd end up well over 10000 on whichever faction you affiliated with Home faction went up to 12000 or so depending on profession. The actual maxfaction in live was 15000. So when you finished all your ranks and so on you were usually like 12000 home and 8000-10000 with the other two of your race, give or take. Typically Progens and Jenquais were low-neutral to each other, and terrans usually friendly to both around the 4 or 5k level. I did some poking around and ill add some other faction things i found in my research. Its amazing how little info there actually is on EnB faction, even archived, other than the charts. http://home.swipnet.se/Hubba/factions.htm For a max of 9999 id say that would be fair 5 or 6 times 500 Edited August 23, 2012 by Ryle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lot Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 ZACKMAN can the portal show the factions that are not listed ingame that are being tracked in the database? I don't think a compromise can be made about Progen Combine, it has to be listed ingame because it controls passage through the gate into Moto from the Progen side -- just like Terran Alliance controls access from the Terran side. Unless the mechanics surrounding Moto have been changed ... Glenn Commission doesn't affect stargate passage just building at Frendship 7 so may be a compromise can be reached by omitting it from the ingame listing (and thus easing away from that limitation you mentioned) and showing it instead on the portal. At least for those trying to get better builds at Friendship 7, they can see what is going on. If we can see Glenn and other hidden factions on the portal that may be the answer for now ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zackman [LDEV] Posted August 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 1. Awsome Ryle, very handy...SAVED ! 2. Portal will offer a button soon where you can restore your homefaction to what it should be based on HU This button will also take into account if you screwed your own faction before by only adding the "HU bonuses" 3. Lot, wait with GC and PC....we might do it different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zackman [LDEV] Posted August 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 PS.: We still dont know FOR SURE what the initial standings where tho, no? EG. when you create a JE, what was the initial standing to eg. Centuriata Warrior? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryle [N7R] Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 If you mean the original standings in live, man i dont even have a clue for PW, my main profession. I cant find any info on original faction standings. Like i said above, the sheer dearth of factional information outside of the charts is mind boggling. I guess thats what happens when a game is buried and forgotten about for 10 years. All i see are ranges and charts for what killing faction X did to faction Y. As far as Profession X starts with 5000Z faction, its simply not out there. Ill try a deeper search later, but im not too optimistic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrell [BT] Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 [quote name='Lot' timestamp='1345719860' post='62217'] ZACKMAN can the portal show the factions that are not listed ingame that are being tracked in the database? I don't think a compromise can be made about Progen Combine, it has to be listed ingame because it controls passage through the gate into Moto from the Progen side -- just like Terran Alliance controls access from the Terran side. Unless the mechanics surrounding Moto have been changed ... Glenn Commission doesn't affect stargate passage just building at Frendship 7 so may be a compromise can be reached by omitting it from the ingame listing (and thus easing away from that limitation you mentioned) and showing it instead on the portal. At least for those trying to get better builds at Friendship 7, they can see what is going on. If we can see Glenn and other hidden factions on the portal that may be the answer for now ... [/quote] Agree, same could be said for Net-7 faction. You need those to dock at their respecitive stations, but they're more important for their effects for building & prices at those locations. It's also unlikely that anyone would tank those factions, as there's not much need for killing N7 or Glenn Commission NPCs. I do wonder what the limit is on how many factions can be shown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zackman [LDEV] Posted August 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Hold your breath a few hours...i might come up with a way better solution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mynd [BT] Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 I found this info regarding factions (Compliments to LPCA who posted this in a thread on 12/16/2003): [b][i]Kill InfinitiCorp:[/i][/b] [b]Salvage Drone/Merchant Ship (clvl0/10, High Earth):[/b] [b]InfinitiCorp Hauler/Heavy Hauler (clvl11/21, Earth):[/b] [b]Interstellarms Liner/Light Freighter (clvl33, Saturn):[/b] [b]InfinitiCorp Cargo Hauler (clvl26, Carpenter):[/b] [b]InfinitiCorp Merchant Ship (clvl6, New Edinburgh):[/b] [b]InfinitiCorp Custodian (clvl6, Inverness Down):[/b] [b]InfinitiCorp Hauler/Bruiser/Hauler/Paladin (clvl10/25/30/33, Aganju):[/b] [b]EarthCorps Express Freighter (clvl33, Arduinne Gas Cloud):[/b] [b]Highport Trading Vessel/Express Boat Runner/Trader's Fort Patrol (clvl10/11/15, Ragnarok):[/b] (by Diamondzmike) -6 InfinitiCorp -2 EarthCorps +1 Hyperia -1 Centuriata +1 Sha'ha'dem +1 V'rix +1 Bogeril +1 Psionics +1 Alliance [b]InfinitiCorp Tanker (clvl6, Inverness Down):[/b] -10 InfinitiCorp -4 EarthCorps +2 Hyperia -2 Centuriata +2 Sha'ha'dem +2 V'rix +2 Bogeril +2 Psionics +2 Alliance [b]InfinitiCorp Demolitions/Demolitions/Supervisor (clvl37/39/41/43/45/49, Earth):[/b] [b]InfinitiCorp Bootlegger/Researcher (clvl33/35, Inverness Down):[/b] [b]InfinitiCorp Scientist/Test Pilot/Information Guard (clvl37/45/49, Earth/Inverness Down):[/b] [b]InfinitiCorp Trustee/Bootlegger/Security 52/55/62, Inverness Down):[/b] [b]InfinitiCorp Data Freighter/Trustee/Xeno Mediary/Xeno Security/Xeno Security (clvl49/52/60/64/66, Arduinne):[/b] -30 InfinitiCorp -10 EarthCorps +5 Hyperia -5 Centuriata +5 Sha'ha'dem +5 V'rix +5 Bogeril +5 Psionics +5 Alliance [b]InfinitiCorp Heavy Hauler (clvl21, Arduinne):[/b] -? InfinitiCorp -? EarthCorps +? Hyperia -? Centuriata +? Sha'ha'dem +? V'rix +? Bogeril +? Psionics +? Alliance [b][i]Kill EarthCorps:[/i][/b] [b]EarthCorps Warrior/Weapon Turret (clvl1/16, High Earth):[/b] [b]EarthCorps Patrol Ship/Officer (clvl33/36, Earth):[/b] [b]EarthCorps Tigershark Class Fighter (clvl5, Witberg):[/b] [b]EarthCorps Cologne Class Destroyer (clvl11, Witberg):[/b] [b]EarthCorps Mako Class Fighter (clvl26, Witberg):[/b] [b]EarthCorps Levchenko Class Close Escort (clvl36, Witberg):[/b] [b]EarthCorps Crewman Apprentice Escort Ship(clvl6, New Edinburgh):[/b] [b]EarthCorps Warrant Officer/Senior Lieutenant (clvl25/31, Inverness/Arduinne):[/b] [b]EarthCorps Mako Class Fighter/MP/Defence Platform/Levchenko Class Close Escort/Levchenko Class Close Escort/Moskva Class Heavy Escort (clvl26/33/33/33/36/40, Arduinne Gas Cloud):[/b] -1 InfinitiCorp -6 EarthCorps +1 V'rix +2 Anseria +4 Bogeril -1 Psionics -1 Alliance [b]Captain Roland Holmes (clvl11, Inverness Down):[/b] -3 InfinitiCorp -18 EarthCorps +3 V'rix +6 Anseria +12 Bogeril -3 Psionics -3 Alliance [b]EarthCorps Sentry/Patrol (clvl41/43, ABG):[/b] [b]EarthCorps Top Gun/Top Gun (clvl53/55, Zweihander):[/b] -5 InfinitiCorp -30 EarthCorps +5 V'rix +10 Anseria +20 Bogeril -5 Psionics -5 Alliance [b]EarthCorps Drill Sergeant (clvl64, Zweihander):[/b] (by Dancedemort) -? InfinitiCorp -30 EarthCorps +? V'rix +? Anseria +20 Bogeril -? Psionics -? Alliance [b][i]Kill Hyperia:[/i][/b] [b]Hyperia Dejected Cygni Miner (clvl11, Aganju):[/b] +18 InfinitiCorp -6 EarthCorps -18 Hyperia -6 Sabine -6 Sha'ha'dem +3 V'rix +3 Bogeril [b]Hyperia Dejected Cygni Miner (clvl13, Aganju):[/b] [b]Hyperia System Phreak/Information Hack (clvl60/62, Inverness Down):[/b] [b]Hyperia Dark Matter Diviner/Gate Researcher (clvl35/39, Zweihander):[/b] [b]Hyperia System Phreak/Gate Researcher/Weft Explorer (clvl45/49/51, Zweihander):[/b] +30 InfinitiCorp -10 EarthCorps -30 Hyperia -10 Sabine -10 Sha'ha'dem +5 V'rix +5 Bogeril [b][i]Kill Collegia:[/i][/b] [b]Progen Construction Envoy (clvl11, Primus):[/b] [b]Collegia Freighter/Auxilia (clvl8/10, Tarsis):[/b] -6 Collegia -3 Centuriata +1 Sabine +1 Sharim +1 Mordana +1 V'rix +1 Red Dragon [b]Collegia Turusae/AI Researcher/Machine Automatist (clvl35/37/45, Lagarto):[/b] -30 Collegia -15 Centuriata +5 Sabine +5 Sharim +5 Mordana +5 V'rix +5 Red Dragon [b][i]Kill Centuriata:[/i][/b] [b]Progen Guard Turret (clvl8, Mars):[/b] [b]Centuriata Diversus (clvl16, Endriago):[/b] [b]Construction Drone/Centuriata Patrolman (clvl5/16, Primus):[/b] [b]Centuriata Centurion/Legionnaire (clvl16/25, Tarsis):[/b] [b]Centuriata Patrol Guard (clvl26, Odin Rex):[/b] -1 InfinitiCorp -1 Collegia -6 Centuriata -1 Sabine +1 Sha'ha'dem +1 Mordana +1 V'rix +2 Red Dragon [b]Centuriata Scaphus Scout/Praetorious Guard/Inquisitor (clvl33/35/49, Tarsis):[/b] [b]Centuriata Bellator/Bellator Magnus (clvl39/45, Lagarto):[/b] -5 InfinitiCorp -5 Collegia -30 Centuriata -5 Sabine +5 Sha'ha'dem +5 Mordana +5 V'rix +10 Red Dragon [b]Dying Centuriata Warrior (clvl22, Primus):[/b] =no change, like if they never existed [b]Centuriata V'rix Hunter/Bellator Magnus (clvl62/64, Tarsis):[/b] -? InfinitiCorp -? Collegia -? Centuriata -? Sabine +? Sha'ha'dem +? Mordana +? V'rix +? Red Dragon [b][i]Kill Sabine:[/i][/b] [b]Sabine Reclaimer/Reclaimer (clvl8/11, ABG):[/b] [b]Sabine Reclaimer/Reclaimer (clvl5/8, Mars):[/b] [b]Sabine Science Vessel (clvl25, Lagarto):[/b] [b]Sabine Specialist/Reclaimer (clvl15/16, Endriago):[/b] [b]Sabine Reclaimer (clvl11, Primus):[/b] [b]Sabine Auxilia/Investigator (clvl10/11, Tarsis):[/b] [b]Sabine Reclaimer (clvl15, Odin's Belt):[/b] [b]Sabine Reclaimer (clvl35/38, Ragnarok):[/b] [b]Sabine Acolyte (clvl26, Varen's Girdle):[/b] -2 Hyperia +4 Collegia -2 Centuriata -6 Sabine +1 Mordana +1 V'rix [b]Sabine Sequence Farmer/Rancher (clvl39/41, Endriago):[/b] -10 Hyperia +30 Collegia -10 Centuriata -30 Sabine +5 Mordana +5 V'rix [b]Sabine V'rix Patrol/V'rix Defence (clvl60/62, Lagarto):[/b] -? Hyperia +? Collegia -? Centuriata -? Sabine +? Mordana +? V'rix [b]Sabine Reclaimer (clvl31, Ragnarok):[/b] (by Diamondzmike) -? Hyperia +? Collegia -? Centuriata -? Sabine +? Mordana +? V'rix b][i]Kill Sharim:[/b][/i] [b]Nishido Transport (clvl16, Yokan):[/b] +2 Collegia -6 Sharim -1 Sha'ha'dem +1 V'rix -1 Red Dragon -1 Psionics [b][i]Kill Sha'ha'dem:[/i][/b] [b]Sha'ha'dem Listener/Researcher (clvl11/16, ABB):[/b] [b]Sha'ha'dem Agent (clvl30, Arduinne):[/b] -2 Sharim -6 Sha'ha'dem +2 V'rix -2 Psionics [b]Sha'ha'dem Archaeologist/Archaeologist/Crystal Seeker (clvl41/43/49, Muspelheim):[/b] -10 Sharim -30 Sha'ha'dem +10 V'rix -10 Psionics [b][i]Kill Alliance:[/i][/b] [b]Alliance Shield Technician/Shield Technician (clvl3739, ABA):[/b] [b]Alliance Conspirator/Conspirator/Conspirator (clvl41/43/49, ABA):[/b] +10 InfinitiCorp -5 EarthCorps +10 Centuriata +5 V'rix -15 Psionics -30 Alliance [b][i]Kill Psionics:[/i][/b] [b]16th/19th/21st/23rd Stage Creator (clvl16/19/21/23, Aganju):[/b] +2 InfinitiCorp -1 Hyperia +2 Centuriata -1 Sharim +2 Mordana +1 V'rix -1 Red Dragon -6 Psionics -3 Alliance [b]Psionic Holomovement Scientist/Frantic Psionic Refugee/Frantic Psionic Refugee/Frantic Psionic Refugee/InfinitiCorp Insider/Psionic Refugee/InfinitiCorp Insider (clvl41/49/51/57/63/65/66, Aganju):[/b] [b]Psionic Pilgrim/Pilgrim/Superquantam Potencial Specialist (clvl37/39/43, Aganju/ABB):[/b] +10 InfinitiCorp -5 Hyperia +10 Centuriata -5 Sharim +10 Mordana +5 V'rix -5 Red Dragon -30 Psionics -15 Alliance [b][i]Kill Anseria:[/i][/b] [b]2nd/4th/7th/9th Circle Anseria (clvl2/4/7/9, Aganju):[/b] +1 EarthCorps +1 Centuriata +1 Sha'ha'dem +1 V'rix -6 Anseria -2 Psionics [b][i]Kill Mordana:[/i][/b] [b]Mordana Dusk Class Frigate Mk. I/Twilight Class Destroyer Mk. I (clvl45/45, Freya):[/b] (by Parahelios/Camel) +1 EarthCorps +? Shinwa (?) -5 Mordana -3 V'rix +1 Red Dragon +1 Psionics +1 Alliance (?) [b][i]Kill Red Dragon:[/i][/b] [b]Ma Jai Novice/Ma Jai Novice Red Dragon (clvl1/2, High Earth):[/b] [b]Ma Jai Initiate/Novice/Veteran/Advanced/Elite Red Dragon (clvl1/2/3/5/6, New Edinburgh):[/b] [b]Dai Lo Initiate/Novice/Elite/Advanced/Elite Red Dragon (clvl18/19/21/25/26, New Edinburgh):[/b] [b]Mekong Freighter II Red Dragon (clvl26, New Edinburgh):[/b] [b]Red Dragon Miner/Suplier (clvl10/12, Inverness Down):[/b] [b]Saam Lo Advanced Red Dragon (clvl11, Inverness Down):[/b] [b]Fujian Freighter II Red Dragon (clvl13, Inverness Down):[/b] [b]Saam Lo Initiate/Novice/Advanced/Elite Red Dragon (clvl7/8/11/12, Muspelheim):[/b] [b]Dai Lo Veteran/Novice Red Dragon (clvl23/30, Aragoth Prime):[/b] [b]Yee Lo Initiate/Novice Red Dragon (clvl13/15, Muspelheim):[/b] [b]Ma Jai Elite Red Dragon (clvl6, Endriago):[/b] [b]Saam Lo Initiate/Advanced Red Dragon (clvl7/11, Endriago):[/b] [b]Ma Jai Novice/Veteran/Advanced/Elite Red Dragon (clvl2/3/5/6, Primus):[/b] [b]Saam Lo Initiate/Novice/Advanced/Elite Red Dragon (clvl7/8/11/12, Primus):[/b] [b]Yee Lo Initiate Red Dragon (clvl13, Primus):[/b] [b]Ma Jai Novice/Advanced/Veteran/Advanced/Elite Red Dragon (clvl2/3/3/5/6, Tarsis):[/b] [b]Saam Lo Initiate/Novice Red Dragon (clvl7/8, Tarsis):[/b] [b]Fujian Freighter/Fujian Freighter II Red Dragon (clvl6/13, Tarsis):[/b] [b]Yee Lo Initiate/Novice/Veteran/Advanced/Cerimonial Guard Red Dragon (clvl13/15/16/18/18, Tarsis):[/b] [b]Yee Lo Initiate/Novice/Veteran Red Dragon (clvl13/15/16, Carpenter):[/b] [b]Dai Lo Novice/Veteran/Advanced Red Dragon (clvl21/23/25, Carpenter):[/b] [b]Yee Lo Initiate/Novice/Veteran/Elite Red Dragon (clvl13/15/16/18, Glory's Orbit):[/b] [b]Dai Dai Lo Novice/Advanced/Veteran/Elite Red Dragon (clvl30/31/33/35, Glory's Orbit):[/b] [b]Dai Lo Advanced (clvl25, Grissom):[/b] [b]Dai Dai Lo Initiate Red Dragon (clvl29, Grissom):[/b] +1 Centuriata -1 Sharim +1 Sha'ha'dem +2 Mordana +1 V'rix -6 Red Dragon +1 Bogeril +1 Psionics +1 Alliance [b][i]Kill V'rix:[/i][/b] [b]V'rix Helkos (clvl3, Zweihander):[/b] [b]V'rix Helkos (clvl6, Odin's Belt):[/b] [b]V'rix Helkos/Helkos (clvl22/26, Lagarto):[/b] [b]V'rix Maxos (clvl12, Primus):[/b] [b]V'rix Helkos/Helkos/Helkos/Helkos/Helkos/Helkos (clvl36/38/44/46/50/52/54/56, Primus):[/b] [b]V'rix Scout/Helkos/Helkos (clvl13/52/54, Planet Primus):[/b] [b]V'rix Helkos/Helkos (clvl10/14, Tarsis):[/b] +1 InfinitiCorp +1 EarthCorps +1 Hyperia +1 Collegia +1 Centuriata +1 Sabine +1 Sharim +1 Shinwa = Sha'ha'dem = Kokura -1 Mordana = Freespacers -6 V'rix -1 Anseria +1 Red Dragon +1 Bogeril = Glenn Commission = Net-7 = GETCo +1 Psionics +1 Alliance [b][i]Kill Bogeril:[/i][/b] [b]Bogeril Greenhorn/Tyro/Tinhorn/Junior/Senior/Outrider/Charlatan/Militia Bugmaster/Militia Cap'n (clvl4/5/5/6/9/9/9/11/16, Witberg):[/b] +2 Earthcorps -6 Bogeril [b][i]Kill Free Spacers:[/i][/b] [b]Free Spacer Recruit (clvl1, ABA):[/b] [b]Free Spacer Protege/Partisan/Demagogue/Seneschal/Cadet/Patron (clvl8/10/11/13/15/18, Jotunheim):[/b] [b]Free Spacer Demagogue/Seneschal (clvl11/13, Endriago):[/b] [b]Free Spacer Seneschal/Cadet/Guide (clvl13/15/16, Tarsis):[/b] [b]Free Spacer Counsel (clvl26, Shepard):[/b] [b]Free Spacer Seneschal/Guide (clvl13/16, Odin's Belt):[/b] [b]Free Spacer Marshal/Meditator/Advocate/Defender/Captain/Arbiter/Commander/Protector/Guardian/Sentinel/Viceroy (clvl30/31/33/35/36/38/40/41/43/45/46, Ragnarok):[/b] [b]Free Spacer Sentinel/Viceroy (clvl45/46, Kitara's Veil):[/b] [b]Free Spacer Sentinel (clvl45, Inverness):[/b] -2 Free Spacers +1 Red Dragon [b][i]Kill Glenn Commission:[/i][/b] [b]Commission Miner (clvl25, Shepard):[/b] +1 Red Dragon -2 Glenn Commission [b][i]Kill GETCo:[/i][/b] [b]GetCo Freight Hauler/Heavy Hauler (clvl10/20, Earth):[/b] -2 GETCo = InfinitiCorp ? someone check this [b]GetCo Courier (clvl5, Witberg):[/b] ? [b]GetCo Trade Representative (clvl16, Odin Rex):[/b] ? [b][i]Kill Net-7:[/i][/b] [b]Net-7 Club Reporter (clvl5, Witberg):[/b] [b]Net-7 Blockade Runner/Broadcast Frigate (clvl15/18, Primus):[/b] [b]Net-7 Field Report Frigate (clvl16, Muspelheim):[/b] [b]Net7 Action News (clvl26, Grissom):[/b] -2 Net-7 +1 Red Dragon [b][i]Unfactioned Mobs:[/i][/b] - [b][i]Chavez:[/i][/b] +0.5 Red Dragon [b]1st Circle Chavez Mechanic/Scout/Thug (clvl5/6/7, Jotunheim)[/b] [b]2nd Circle Chavez Mechanic/Scout/Thug (clvl9/10/11, Jotunheim)[/b] [b]3rd Circle Chavez Mechanic/Scout/Enforcer (clvl12/13/15, Jotunheim)[/b] [b]Chavez Clan Miner (clvl10, Odin's Belt)[/b] [b]2rd Circle Chavez Scout (clvl10, Odin's Belt)[/b] [b]4th Circle Chavez Transport/Thug (clvl16/17, Odin's Rex)[/b] [b]5th Circle Chavez Mechanic/Scout/Enforcer/Commander (clvl19/20/21/22, Odin's Rex)[/b] [b]Chavez Blood Initiate/Blood Initiate Commander (clvl23/25, Odin's Rex)[/b] [b]6th Circle Chavez Mechanic/Thug (clvl25/27, Odin's Rex)[/b] [b]5th Circle Chavez Mechanic/Enforcer/Commander (clvl21/21/22, Glenn)[/b] [b]Chavez Blood Initiate/Blood Initiate Commander (clvl23/25, Glenn)[/b] [b]6th Circle Chavez Mechanic/Thug/Commander (clvl27/27/27, Glenn)[/b] [b]3rd Circle Chavez Mechanic/Scout (clvl12/13, Ragnarok)[/b] [b]Chavez Courier Clan (clvl13, Ragnarok)[/b] [b]Chavez Clan Merchant (clvl16, Ragnarok)[/b] [b]6th Circle Chavez Mechanic/Transport/Thug (clvl25/26/27, Ragnarok)[/b] [b]7th Circle Chavez Mechanic/Enforcer/Commander (clvl30/32/35, Ragnarok)[/b] [b]Chavez Blood Circle Juggernaut/Commander (clvl33/35, Ragnarok)[/b] - [b][i]Outlings:[/i][/b] [b]Flesh/Brain/Scavenger Drone (clvl15/18/21, Aganju):[/b] +0.5 InfinitiCorp +0.5 EarthCorps - [b][i]Belters/Miners/Rogues:[/i][/b] +0.5 Free Spacers +0.5 Glenn Commission [b]Rogue Smuggler/Rustler/Spacejacker (clvl7/8/9, Ragnarok)[/b] [b]Rogue Privateer/Hook/Rook/Brigand/Corsair/Buccaneer (clvl10/10/10/11/12/13, Ragnarok)[/b] [b]Rogue Hustler/Privateer/Marauder (clvl8/10/15, Aragoth Prime)[/b] [b]Muddled Belter Drone/Drudge (clvl6/7, Muspelheim)[/b] [b]Misguided Belter Laborer/Misguided Belter/Confused Belter Drone (clvl12/13/13, Inverness)[/b] [b]Belter Drone/Drudge/Belter Laborer/Belter/Belter Foreman (clvl3/4/5/6/8, Tarsis)[/b] [b]Muddled Belter Drone/Belter Drudge/Belter Foreman/Belter (clvl6/7/8/10, Yokan)[/b] [b]Belter Transport/Trainee/Driller/Machinist/Laborer/Technician/Specialist/Surveyor/Foreman/Engineer/Supervisor/Controller (clvl25/26/28/30/31/33/35/36/38/40/41/43, Vishao's Cove)[/b] - [b][i]Rogue Progen:[/i][/b] [b]Rogue Progen (clvl8/10/11/13, Endriago):[/b] +0.5 Free Spacers +0.5 Glenn Commission - [b][i]Defence Drones:[/i][/b] [b]Defence Drone (clvl23/24/25/26, Odin Rex):[/b] +0.5 Free Spacers +0.5 Glenn Commission - [b][i]Maelstrom Hounds:[/i][/b] [b]Maelstrom Whelp/Hound/Hound Master/Packleader (clvl5/7/8/10, Tarsis):[/b] +1 Centuriata - [b][i]Merus Milia:[/i][/b] [b]Merus Milia Lackey/Subordinate/Soldier/Mechanic/Fighter/Bomber (clvl3/3/4/6/8/10, ABG):[/b] +0.5 Centuriata +0.5 Sabine [b]Merus Milia Captain (clvl16, ABG):[/b] +2 Centuriata +2 Sabine - [b][i]Manes:[/i][/b] +0.5 Sabine [b]Shining/Glittering/Glittering Manes (clvl8/11/15, ABA)[/b] [b]Illuminate/Glorious/Coruscating/Vivid Manes (clvl38/41/44/45, Mars)[/b] [b]Fulgent/Bright Manes (clvl22/25, Lagarto)[/b] [b]Flickering/Ghostly/Misty/Glowing/Luminous/Blazing Manes (clvl1/2/3/4/5/6, Endriago)[/b] [b]Ghostly/Misty/Glowing/Luminous Manes (clvl1/2/3/4/5, Planet Endriago)[/b] [b]Glittering/Fulgent/Shimmering/Lucent/Dazzling/Glorious/Vivid/Radiant/Splendid Manes (clvl15/22/28/31/35/41/45/48/51, Xipe Totec)[/b] [b]Glorious/Flamming/Corruscating/Vivid/Radiant Manes (clvl31/37/44/45/48, Ragnarok)[/b] [b]Glittering/Sparkling Manes (clvl15/18, Odin's Belt)[/b] - [b][i]Dish Devils:[/i][/b] +0.5 Sabine [b]Dish Dancer/Dish Dervish/Dish Demon (clvl5/6/8, ABG)[/b] [b]Dish Hatchling/Spawn (clvl0/0, Lagarto)[/b] - [b][i]Oni/Saihenwa-mu/Gomi-Kemono:[/i][/b] +0.5 Sabine +1 Shinwa +0.5 Sha'ha'dem [b]Oni/Oni Eblis/Oni Shaitan/Oni Fiend/Oni Daeva/Oni Wraith (clvl25/28/33/36/41/45, Xipe Totec)[/b] [b]Saihenwa-mu/Saihenwa-mu Kun (clvl6/25, Xipe Totec)[/b] [b]Gomi-Kemono/Gomi-Kemono Shambler (clvl26/33, Xipe Totec)[/b] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mynd [BT] Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 [quote name='Ryle' timestamp='1345727396' post='62229'] If you mean the original standings in live, man i dont even have a clue for PW, my main profession. I cant find any info on original faction standings. Like i said above, the sheer dearth of factional information outside of the charts is mind boggling. I guess thats what happens when a game is buried and forgotten about for 10 years. All i see are ranges and charts for what killing faction X did to faction Y. As far as Profession X starts with 5000Z faction, its simply not out there. Ill try a deeper search later, but im not too optimistic [/quote] Check this out Bro: http://web.archive.org/web/20041108163714/http://ebportal.com/forum/topic/49/10023/0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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