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Margesi pathing is.... stupid

I so love the convolutions of Agrippa... That seems like a problem with not getting through Stage I before doing stage II at OL100+

The best possible thing right now is to ask the Devs to complete and deploy all of the "pending" content they already have in progress before asking them to develop a PvP system that the original Westwood designers never even left a frame work for. 

I made the exact same mistake with my Terrans... A common mistake with that mission really.

You have to long-warp travel from Aganju to Zweihander.. Specifically Inverness and New Edinburgh sectors must be traveled across... The log should up date and he should escape along that route... If you Wormhole to bypass all the travel and arrive at Zweihander, your mission will not update until you go back and do it the long way.

As an epitaph of this thread, since the issue has been addressed I'd like to say...   Thank you for the /hidedebris command...   My system performance in Paramis is now excellent when I implement the command, it no longer feels like flying in soup... Frames went from 30-40 to 60-70 FPS.    Every raid leader should remember this command, it needs to be implemented before entering a sector and goes away on logout/crash but it may prevent more crashes than anything...

  Oh, I totally understand what was done, and for the most part I agree with those changes.  But EnB was originally designed to have thousands of single players involved.  Grouping up with a few folks for XP wasn't hard then.  But in the environment we see today, in the EMU, we have something quite different.  What 100-200 players and actual human beings looking at their screen and operating ships is between 20 and 100 per day.  Alts and multi-boxer setups contribute more than 1/2 of the online population at any given time.  This was done out of necessity by the players to overcome their inability to adequately solo their toons.    That being said Any "new" content that is not basically derived from the original EnB should take that into consideration, continued operation under the idea that we have thousands of players and that forcing people to group to play is only going to continue that need for Multi-boxing. Even now many of the single-toon solo players feel out gunned, out performed and out classed by the combat groups created by the players who have managed to wire together 6 ships into a cohesive unit and operate them with some degree of proficiency.    We should look at ways to level the field.    Look at it from this perspective.  If I were a Terran Enforcer, dependent on my missiles to fight, the idea that I would not be able to increase the effectiveness of my weapons by use of technology that is available to other members of my race (Terran Scout and a Salamander Debuff) would be hard to accept.   The Jenquai are relatively self-sufficent individual ships, even the Jenquai Seeker has more than adequate means to solo combat when compared to the Warrior class of the Terrans.  That is flawed design, even if it was originally intentional it is still flawed.  A careful rethinking of what small changes can be made to bring the Class Groups (Warriors, traders, explorers) on par with their racial peers should be conducted.    For TE that would begin with a simple item... Something similar to the Cassel's Wither that any Progen can obtain that would debuff Explosive.  That would enable the TE to become nearly self sufficient in combat and at least bring it up to par with the Progen Warrior (Who has Cassel's Wither AND a built in Debuff for Impact in their skill Grav Link).  Something similar is needed for the TT since they too have the same basic missile options as TE, so make it "Terran Only" either by device limitation or by mission requirement.   All of these ideas for "new content" when we have content that is "pending" for nearly a year now, diminishing player base and a driving thirst for new content is moot if we don't start looking at making EnB Solo Friendly as well as Group Oriented.  Jenquai don't need very much help there... Progens could use a little tweaking maybe (I never understood why a race can't build all types of ship components for example).  Terrans have their advantages, but they are forced into a support role and TE is utterly castrated as a solo warrior class when compared to it's peers.   The ONLY reason TE is desired for raids is two skills Hacking and Bio-Repression. And from my standpoint, looking at my TE's potential and faults, that is the only thing they are good for.  I challenge you to find ways to make every class solo-viable, this WILL push them into greater use in raids/groups.  Forced interdependence only makes weak classes. 

Chang Lung's Pride and Hellbore don't count for TE.... They are rare, raid drops... The common player can't even hope to obtain those with any degree of reliability... L5 Plasma debuff is insufficient. This Bullywere item you speak of, does it drop in game now?  First I've seen it..   The point I was trying to make is... If you are going to make faction related debuffs they should be either race limited or open to all and not class restricted... It would only serve to inspire more multi-boxing reasons and decrease solo capability of the other classes.  The direction this game is going with population we either have to fully embrace multi-boxing or bring Solo play up to a viable level.  The devs can choose that direction... Grouping for Raids is only a minor facet of what I am talking about... Given my current situation with raids and my opinion of that entire mess, raids are the LEAST of my concerns.... I play solo 99% of the time... My TE is broken for solo play, period... I would rather see something that makes her more viable, not less...   UPDATE: Pulsing bullywere eye is not currently in game... only one person that has one in game at present, not even sure how that came to be.. Another non-viable option.

There may not be a way to fix it...   TT will always outclass the other two builder/support ships... One reason... Hull Patch....   JE will always outclass TS/PS... why?  it can hide...   But I should not need a TT to solo-play my TE either... TE needs to have some level of self sufficiency...   PW can Shield sap for limited healing and can debuff all of their primary damage types (Impact/chem)   TE gets impact debuff?  Plasma/Explosive are the primary damage types for TE... TE can't debuff them effectively... TE is more crippled that PW when solo...   Fix that... It is more important than trying to fix PP/JS if the Devs insist on not finding a way to give those classes hull patch they will always be second chair to the TT...   No amount of debuff items will correct for that...

Raids are only 10% of the game... If you cripple all of the PWs, TEs and other classes from being able to solo because they can't get a viable debuff and play without support of other classes for simple content, then which is worse?    I have all 9 classes now... All built up and equipped with the best I can get for them via raids and trade.... I have ONE toon that I can say is an effective solo play with the flexibility to go anywhere and kill about anything I want.. Without dual boxing....   My JD.....   If you ask me.. that is broken...   My JD can kill almost anything in game short of a raid... my PW can't say that, nor can my TE... They are crippled because of there dependance on other classes for support... They can't just fly solo into any sector and go nuts like my JD can... I have to pair them up with an Explorer or Healer to even have a chance at long-term time on target... JD can go all day... Why?   Because JD can debuff for max damage on it's primary damage type.... The other two, PW and TE, cannot... so they have to fight longer and get swarmed ... That is not balance, that is not right... and it is because of the "You need to group" mentality that forces me to Dual-Box... If you introduce more of the same.. That compounds the problem when you consider we have a small/diminishing player base, solo play has to be a primary consideration... Grouping is dead...

I have attended several raids... TT is essential, JS/PP is left out due to a lack of Hull Patch, not debuff options...   JE is always desired in raids for their recharge capabilities and jumpstart, PS/TS are acceptable secondaries but are almost never primary contenders for raid group composition.  People will often forgo a TS/PS in a formation for a second TT.  Again Debuffs never enter the consideration or TS and its L9 Explosive Debuff or PS with it's L9 Chemical debuff would find more traction in the RD Base raid specifically.  More than 2 jumpstarters at this point is considered redundant no matter what the combination and are often a dual-boxed, secondary concern, not necessarily required in primary group construction.   TE, PW, JD, TT are the primary classes desired for raids, even JD has limited use now and more than 2 in a major raid is often less desirable than more PWs or TTs.   I have participated in Gate raids, for example, in groups composed of only PWs and TTs with a high degree of success and no deaths.  3 PWs, 2 TTs and 1 JD can take down the gate with ease.. Any other classes were played as secondary, non-grouped, dual boxed options, not as a primary consideration.    There are people who multi-box six or more ships at once, two such  groups have taken down GoBB and Controller with varied degrees of success.  Two live players, 12 toons.. Solo play and group play are no longer able to be defined in the manner you are considering Terrel... It is becoming a thing of the past.

I realize that is the purpose... But given the current play process all it has lead to is multi-boxing to get better performance... It does not necessarily increase player cooperation... Only in raid settings do you even see that anymore..

My only problem with the current debuff scheme is that it was deliberately designed to force a specific class to depend on another for some of their highest debuff values.   Gorgon Debuff item is Terran only.  Terrans don't use Impact, Progens do.  With the vastly solo-oriented player base all this does is force people to dual box odd combinations of toons.   If this scheme were to be open to all classes/races without restrictions, I could agree that it would be useful.  But if it follows the story line, then Terrans would not be able to use debuffs against Chavez... Likewise Jenquai would not be able to use debuffs v.s. Red Dragons it loses its usefulness very quickly. 

  The GMs are on infrequently enough that their intervention is not a solution... We have two GMs that are ever online and there is no why it is 24 hours a day..

The only thing this entire ordeal has brought me is grief... And it is a select few people in a couple of the big 3 guilds that create it...   They offer their support and help to my face, then tear us down at every opportunity... This kind of hypocritical crap has done it... I am sick and tired of it..

Good luck GHB.. I know you are working hard to get these working... don't let these people discourage you...

I look back through this thread.. I see Static making accusations, founded or not... BI and EG people trying to defend themselves... I guess I am just not interested in all of that... I want to solve problems.. but as long as the Big 3 continue to use the public raids to sling mud at eachother there is no way we can get ahead of that...   You, Allura and the Rest of static seem to have little faith in my ability to do anything about these issues.. so I will formally stand down from any participation in these raid discussions, raid issues and the raids themselves....   You can ALL burn in hell as far as I am concerned... your petty bickering has me at my limits.. (By ALL I mean, BI, Static, EG, All of you... )

EG does not always have enough people on to orchestrate these, so when a raid is starting and EG is not around we depend on the big 3 to help... If/When EG organizes, it is easier, but that is not always the case....   I have not seen this multi-boxing thing you speak of, the raids I have participated in so far were mostly single players and a couple of dual-boxers.. mostly people dual-boxed with a JE to help with jumpstarts and the odd back-up healer.    Too many conclusions are drawn on partial information.  Generalizations formed on too specific of instances... All this does is breed mistrust, anxiety and resentment.  This is why I ask for it to stop on the forums.... The only thing this serves is to continue animosity at this point..

Canman.. if we had NO help from ANY big 3 member, then the raids won't happen as often as they should...   If we have people from the other guilds "watching" then why is Static the only one raising issues?   I am just weary of everyone trying to find fault in what everyone else does.... The public rotation is the public's affair.. you don't seem to think we are trying to manage it so you keep trying to meddle in it... We recruit people from wherever we can and try to enforce the Big3 no-loot rule... If Big3 members are in violation of that, it is up to the Big 3 to deal with it...   As a completely public member, I can say this... we are working very hard to make this as open to as many people as possible... Static needs to attend to their own raids and decide if they are willing to "help" public as needed or not... That is your place in this now... Not overseer of raids... if we have someone not doing what is considered right by our measure, we'll address it with their guild leaders or them directly... It is not Static, VGE or BI's job to police this... It is OUR job...   We appreciate the input and guidance, but every time you bring up these issues it causes more problems then you are solving, so please consider that the next time you start posting to this thread, it has caused innumerable headaches and problems that are not seen here and I have to ask that it stops now.... Please bring them to  myself, the leadership of EG or any others that present themselves as leadership of these raids directly.... Rant posts on this forum have only served to turn public people away from the raids because of the overwhelming drama that has ensued because of these posts and the in-game rants and fighting.... please stop...

To my way of thinking, it does not matter if Jamoos helps with these public raids, he's an awesome raid leader and knows these raids very well.  He has been valuable to EG in that he has helped them learn the ropes and get better prepared for them.  Same goes for any member of VGE, Static or BI that shows up to help us out.    The only point I have issue with is that the general public needs to be "invited"  many times this means maybe one or two people will show up, but even if no public players show up at all, the attempt should be made to include them.  At least 30 minutes warning would be advised to allow said public players to dock, build appropriate ammo and gather raid items needed and then get to the location of the raid.    EG is not one of the big 3, though soon they will rival VGE in membership.  The big 3 saw to it that EG was not included in the rotation by spending months "discussing" the matter and not coming to a resolution, instead the "public" rotation was opened up.  This means that EG will ALWAYS constitute a large part of these raids.  They have a large guild and many members that need items from these raids.  EG has organized and included many public people in the past, though we are working to solidify communication to the public and make it more inclusive in events where a majority of the participants are EG people.  It is my hope that EG is sincere in their pledge to include the public and that they will demonstrate this rather than subversively attempting to activate and complete these raids with no mention of it to the public.    The constant "surveillance" of these raids by Static is fine, but the constant determination to find fault in how they are run and by whom is just compounding this problem.  There are members of BI, EG and the public that are resentful of this "Babysitting" that Static is doing.  We love that Static has helped and is always willing to help with the raids when we've got a problem getting people together and that Static has the Public's interests at heart, but it makes people that Statics real purpose is to find fault in what others are doing and throw criticism around like a weapon.  As a result members of the public and Epic are reluctant to even mention these raid triggers for fear of attracting someone from static to "Watch".  If you go to the raid location and sit there cloaked you contribute to the lag and add a sense of resentment toward your guild.    We've gone one cycle with the "Public" rotation and are in our "Down" week at this point.  I suspect, with some patience and transparency we can expect each rotation to get a little better.  I also expect to have raids that don't happen in a perfect situation, it is par for the course given the circumstances and is to be expected to some extent.    I ask for patience and continued support from the Big 3 and for EG to remember that they have pledged to support all of the non-guild and small guild players in this endeavor. 

main server showing online but Auth is still failing or something.. proxy hangs at hand-off

BOOM! hard down now.. hope it is reboot in progress.

Your second idea would work... we may lose a trigger at the early hours of Saturday, but that is small compared...     The only problem I see is there is no way to stop someone from taking it down.. and there are people who will do it just cause they can get away with it.. so someone would have to babysit that trigger

One stipulation?  I don't mind PvP as long as all of the ego-fuled rants and taunting cannot be heard... I propose that all PvP players be unable to send on General, New Player and Market channels while they are PvP.  Period... If I have to endure testosterone laced rants in common channels I'll quit faster than you can say "Oops".    I don't mind PvP... I detest the egos that accompany it... which is why I do not play PvP games...

It may be related to the holiday code issues they've been having, with luck they'll get on top of it soon..