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This was just finished a few minutes ago, what a week. Anyway, let me know if anything goes sideways. Another update was announced in some of the software we were using but I wasn't comfortable making that big a jump today so there'll be another maintenance pretty soon. Until then, let me know how things are.

Ok, things seem to be back to the norm now, I suppose let me know if anything seems odd, let's see how well things perform on the shiniest new updates.

Things are slowly coming back right, a little bit of kicking. Some mild connectivity issues it seems. Checking that out now.

Server's in a wonky state. It's up, but group buffs aren't loading. Mining/freewarp appears to be infinite (or far beyond normal energy limits) Mining causes the reactor bar to fully drain, then instantly pop back once the item is extracted. Cloaking appears to be infinite (or very long) Sector backgrounds are not (always) loading Some people are reporting the group frame (where group members are shown) is also gone. It's apparently been like this for 3-4 hours at least.

Right, I should explain. So, because of how many slots of ore exist per level, I have 5 vault characters for raw ore, and 2 for refined (not all refined is useful, so you need less). Then I have 5 more 'staging characters'. Those are the 5 TTs that fly with my JE so I can use them as mules while mining. So, the flow of ore/hulk stuff is like this: Roid -> JE -> Staging Character (until full stack) -> Vault character (until reserve quantity met) -> Refining character -> (2 possibles; selling character or refining vault). I don't really like the idea of having 'staging characters', but I'm not about to level up 5 more TTs from lvl 0, so...meh. Oh! And for the Hulk stuff, prototype gear specifically, I have a way to only save the (customizable) 120%+ quality stuff. In my case, weapons have to be at least 120% quality to get saved, and shields/reactors/engines can be 100% or better. But those are variables in the script and easy to change/customize.

I'm still working on the ore move script (like everything, the devil is in the details...and there's a LOT of details). But here's an example of why I'm writing it... For char Dolladolla slot1 - Moving 300 Abyssian Dust in slot 0 to Doctorts For char Dolladolla slot2 - Moving 300 Celestial Ore in slot 7 to Doctorts For char Dolladolla slot3 - Moving 300 Conorite in slot 10 to Doctorts For char Dolladolla slot4 - Moving 300 Cupidite in slot 12 to Doctorts For char Dolladolla slot5 - Moving 300 Duplium Ore in slot 16 to Doctorts For char Dolladolla slot6 - Moving 300 Emperion in slot 19 to Doctorts For char Dolladolla slot7 - Moving 300 Helvatha in slot 21 to Doctorts For char Dolladolla slot8 - Moving 300 Idunium Ore in slot 25 to Doctorts For char Dolladolla slot9 - Moving 300 Inderite in slot 27 to Doctorts For char Dolladolla slot10 - Moving 300 Khnumium Ore in slot 32 to Doctorts For char Dolladolla slot11 - Moving 300 Leonite in slot 34 to Doctorts For char Dolladolla slot12 - Moving 300 Leonite in slot 36 to Doctorts Actual sending disabled. For char Dolladolla slot1 - Moving 300 Neutronium Ore in slot 41 to Doctorts For char Dolladolla slot2 - Moving 300 Pyrrhotite Gneiss in slot 46 to Doctorts For char Dolladolla slot3 - Moving 300 Raw Charybdis Voidstone in slot 50 to Doctorts For char Dolladolla slot4 - Moving 300 Raw Diamond in slot 52 to Doctorts For char Dolladolla slot5 - Moving 300 Raw Firerock in slot 56 to Doctorts For char Dolladolla slot6 - Moving 300 Raw Firerock in slot 57 to Doctorts For char Dolladolla slot7 - Moving 300 Raw Galactic Rimstone in slot 60 to Doctorts For char Dolladolla slot8 - Moving 300 Raw Hadecite in slot 61 to Doctorts For char Dolladolla slot9 - Moving 300 Raw Meteoric Diamond in slot 63 to Doctorts For char Dolladolla slot10 - Moving 300 Raw Meteoric Diamond in slot 64 to Doctorts For char Dolladolla slot11 - Moving 300 Raw Mica in slot 66 to Doctorts For char Dolladolla slot12 - Moving 300 Raw Scyllan Diamond in slot 68 to Doctorts Actual sending disabled. For char Rejecca slot1 - Moving 300 Andromesite in slot 2 to Doctorts For char Rejecca slot2 - Moving 300 Charon's Dust in slot 8 to Doctorts For char Rejecca slot3 - Moving 300 Gold Ore in slot 15 to Doctorts For char Rejecca slot4 - Moving 300 Hades Blood in slot 17 to Doctorts For char Rejecca slot5 - Moving 300 Hades Blood in slot 18 to Doctorts For char Rejecca slot6 - Moving 300 Hafnium Ore in slot 20 to Doctorts For char Rejecca slot7 - Moving 300 Halon in slot 22 to Doctorts For char Rejecca slot8 - Moving 300 Krypton in slot 26 to Doctorts For char Rejecca slot9 - Moving 300 Radium Ore in slot 37 to Doctorts For char Rejecca slot10 - Moving 300 Radon in slot 39 to Doctorts For char Rejecca slot11 - Moving 300 Raw Anthenicite in slot 41 to Doctorts For char Rejecca slot12 - Moving 300 Raw Charon Crystal in slot 45 to Doctorts Actual sending disabled. For char Shogunfive slot1 - Moving 300 Anubium Ore in slot 1 to Doctorts For char Shogunfive slot2 - Moving 300 Argon in slot 3 to Doctorts For char Shogunfive slot3 - Moving 300 Argon in slot 4 to Doctorts For char Shogunfive slot4 - Moving 300 Cobalite in slot 14 to Doctorts For char Shogunfive slot5 - Moving 300 Fluorine in slot 16 to Doctorts For char Shogunfive slot6 - Moving 300 Fluorine in slot 17 to Doctorts For char Shogunfive slot7 - Moving 300 Fluorine in slot 18 to Doctorts For char Shogunfive slot8 - Moving 300 Neon in slot 30 to Doctorts For char Shogunfive slot9 - Moving 300 Neon in slot 31 to Doctorts For char Shogunfive slot10 - Moving 300 Raw Alexandrite in slot 36 to Doctorts For char Shogunfive slot11 - Moving 300 Raw Lapis Lazuli in slot 46 to Doctorts For char Shogunfive slot12 - Moving 300 Raw Malachite in slot 48 to Doctorts Actual sending disabled. For char Dolladolla slot1 - Moving 300 Raw Tincal in slot 69 to Doctorts For char Dolladolla slot2 - Moving 300 Raw Voidgem in slot 71 to Doctorts For char Dolladolla slot3 - Moving 300 Stojsavline in slot 74 to Doctorts For char Dolladolla slot4 - Moving 300 Stygian Blacksand in slot 76 to Doctorts For char Dolladolla slot5 - Moving 300 Stygian Blacksand in slot 77 to Doctorts For char Dolladolla slot6 - Moving 300 Vaneon in slot 83 to Doctorts For char Dolladolla slot7 - Moving 300 Vaneon in slot 84 to Doctorts For char Dolladolla slot8 - Moving 300 Wexeon in slot 88 to Doctorts For char Dolladolla slot9 - Moving 300 Yunieon Gas in slot 91 to Doctorts Actual sending disabled. For char Dolladolla slot1 - Moving 300 Ambrosia Crude in slot 95 to Eightnineore For char Dolladolla slot2 - Moving 300 Boragon in slot 93 to Eightnineore For char Dolladolla slot3 - Moving 300 Emperion in slot 18 to Eightnineore For char Dolladolla slot4 - Moving 300 Minosium Ore in slot 38 to Eightnineore For char Dolladolla slot5 - Moving 300 Persephonite in slot 44 to Eightnineore For char Dolladolla slot6 - Moving 300 Vanirum Ore in slot 86 to Eightnineore Actual sending disabled. For char Dolladolla slot1 - Moving 300 Apollonite in slot 3 to Sixsevenore For char Dolladolla slot2 - Moving 300 Demeter's Tears in slot 14 to Sixsevenore For char Dolladolla slot3 - Moving 300 Horusium Ore in slot 24 to Sixsevenore For char Dolladolla slot4 - Moving 300 Iridium Ore in slot 29 to Sixsevenore For char Dolladolla slot5 - Moving 300 Iridium Ore in slot 30 to Sixsevenore For char Dolladolla slot6 - Moving 300 Raw Eye Stone in slot 54 to Sixsevenore For char Dolladolla slot7 - Moving 300 Tantalum Ore in slot 79 to Sixsevenore Actual sending disabled. For char Greedincarnate slot1 - Moving 300 Diridium Crystal in slot 9 to Doctorts For char Greedincarnate slot2 - Moving 300 Diridium Crystal in slot 10 to Doctorts For char Greedincarnate slot3 - Moving 300 Raw Amethyst in slot 31 to Doctorts Actual sending disabled. For char Greedincarnate slot1 - Moving 300 Raw Topaz in slot 41 to Lvloneore For char Greedincarnate slot2 - Moving 300 Raw Topaz in slot 42 to Lvloneore Actual sending disabled. For char Rejecca slot1 - Moving 300 Adamantine Ore in slot 0 to Sixsevenore For char Rejecca slot2 - Moving 300 Discordite in slot 13 to Sixsevenore For char Rejecca slot3 - Moving 300 Osirium Ore in slot 31 to Sixsevenore For char Rejecca slot4 - Moving 300 Raw Flawless Ruby in slot 49 to Sixsevenore For char Rejecca slot5 - Moving 300 Raw Flawless Ruby in slot 50 to Sixsevenore For char Rejecca slot6 - Moving 300 Stygian Blackwater in slot 66 to Sixsevenore For char Rejecca slot7 - Moving 300 Stygian Blackwater in slot 67 to Sixsevenore For char Rejecca slot8 - Moving 300 Stygian Blackwater in slot 68 to Sixsevenore For char Rejecca slot9 - Moving 300 Stygian Blackwater in slot 69 to Sixsevenore Actual sending disabled. For char Rejecca slot1 - Moving 300 Raw Heartstone in slot 52 to Doctorts For char Rejecca slot2 - Moving 300 Raw Icy Pearl in slot 54 to Doctorts For char Rejecca slot3 - Moving 300 Xenon in slot 77 to Doctorts For char Rejecca slot4 - Moving 300 Xenon in slot 78 to Doctorts For char Rejecca slot5 - Moving 300 Zalmoxium Ore in slot 80 to Doctorts Actual sending disabled. For char Rejecca slot1 - Moving 300 Brood Oil in slot 6 to Fourfiveore For char Rejecca slot2 - Moving 300 Hawkinsite in slot 24 to Fourfiveore For char Rejecca slot3 - Moving 300 Raw Skystone in slot 57 to Fourfiveore For char Rejecca slot4 - Moving 300 Rhodite in slot 63 to Fourfiveore For char Rejecca slot5 - Moving 300 Titanium Ore in slot 73 to Fourfiveore Actual sending disabled. For char Shogunfive slot1 - Moving 300 Vanadium Ore in slot 64 to Doctorts Actual sending disabled. For char Shogunfive slot1 - Moving 300 Meteoric Sand in slot 28 to Fourfiveore For char Shogunfive slot2 - Moving 300 Solar Sweet Oil in slot 53 to Fourfiveore Actual sending disabled. For char Shogunfive slot1 - Moving 300 Raw Citrine in slot 41 to Twothreeore For char Shogunfive slot2 - Moving 300 Star Iron Ore in slot 55 to Twothreeore Actual sending disabled. The script runs in multiple phases. Moving partial stacks to the staging characters, Moving full stacks or raw ore on the staging characters to the vault chars, then any excess to the designated 'Refining' character (doctorTS in this case) This is what is shown above. If you look for Emperion you can see this balancing behavior in action. I want to keep 300 in reserve on my vault, and any extra gets refined and either sold or saved (see step 3). Despite the doctorTS line printing first, it actually did slate a stack for the vault character (Eightnineore) first, but so few stacks went to the vault vs needing to go to doctorTS that the doctorTS batch ended up 'sending' (this is in debug mode, so it didn't actually move it) first. Moving refined items to their vault(s) or the designated Sell Character (someone with Negotiate 7 :D) In reality, it would never be able to do all 3 in one pass. You'd have to log in between phases 2 and 3 and actually refine the ore. Also, the only way to collapse stacks is in-game, so that remains a manual step. But still...if you sit and count, that's 66 stacks of ore for DoctorTS to refine. And to know that I needed to move those 66 stacks I would have to check *at least* 5 different inventories. This tool is SO much less mental work. yay. Oh, and the fact that it's breaking up into little transfers of 5, 1, 2, etc, that's because it's honoring the portal rules and treating each source:destination pair as unique. So it will do batches of 12 when it can, and when it can't, it will do as many as it can. I haven't actually tested whether the API supports more than 12 items, having one send from a single source go to multiple dests, and various other things like that...I don't plan to. Or if I do it will be purely to sate my curiosity. I imagine the handler is robust against such non-typical uses. But I also admit to raw curiosity. And, yes, it works with hulk contents too. In my use case, Bogeril stuff goes to one character, and then I have separate vaults for Prototype Weapons/shields/reactors/engines. I also have regional vaults for various turn-ins (so Terran space suits go to Earth, Progen ones go to Mars, as do all the Gene Maps, etc). Because of how it's designed, it would not be particularly difficult to change it to be able to move ore in bulk. So if you have a TT making 100s of stacks of ammo for alts, this could also automate moving that, with minor effort. And yes, Stygian Blackwater is INCREDIBLY abundant. P.S. Yes, I say 'automate'. It's semi-auto. You have to manually trigger it, and do other manual stuff around it. It's automatic like a semi-auto handgun is automatic. You still have to do manual stuff to make it go bang.

Hi folks, Just a heads up, I need to perform maintenance so I plan to do this tomorrow morning US Eastern time. It will probably be between 8a-12p, I am not sure when precisely, but the game should not be down for very long hopefully, I just wanted to give you a little heads up. Thanks.

Enabling a feature as .NET is generally set up now typically requires a restart to reload the library. So if you followed something that had you enable the .NET 3.5 so it would work, then later restarted, that would have probably be your culprit.

Mordana mini-raids are a nice starting point with a small multibox group of 3. (TE/TS hackers mandatory for the Destroyer mobs) Also think that advertising in chat might catch some interest at (USA) times (possibly even eliminating the need to multibox altogether)

There are 9 professions now, so you can add 3 more to your list! As for those ones with L49 trade, you can go do L75 trade jobs from Chernevog Station in Aragoth Prime to Fenris Prime Observatory (make sure and get the Diplomat or Tourist jobs, those are the ones that go to FPO) and you'll have those to OL150 in no time.

For such things, I've honestly found chatGPT to be a huge time saver. I'd never touched javascript before (but I had programmed in other languages) and it was able to teach me enough javascript to make something work. It's also saved me a lot of time writing autohotkey functions because it can type *way* faster than I can, and I can generally tell it "do X" and know X is possible. But like, it can teach a lot of things as well as your average school teacher (meaning it also, like the human, gets stuff wrong). It has infinite patience (in my experience anyway) so it's actually pretty decent at helping troubleshoot stuff. It is FAR from perfect though. As for meta tasks, idk, maybe pick your favorite sector and make sure every drop in the wiki is up to date. Maybe bring all 6 damage types and find out which resists are *actually* the weakest for each mob. ...I'm not very creative. I'm sure you'll figure something out.

So, I looked at the AHK post you mentioned. I will be honest. I am rather inept when it comes to the technical side of computers. It explains in detail the script, how it works, functions and how to set up. My stupid ass here is thinking "How do you even run a script, let alone write it? Do I need to download a program or something?" All that is way over my head, the fact that I am asking myself if a program is needed to even start it. I feel like I am in no place to even attempt it. I wish I knew more, but at this stage. I do not have the knowledge to even comprehend how difficult any of that is. Sounds like it would be super useful too.

I can't speak to solo raiding. I know some raids specifically (Controller?) got changed to make solo-raiding impossible. Others will have to chime in on that. Keybind copy: Not sure. The keybinds are stored in a flatfile in the install directory, but each file is set per-character, and...yeah, idk. To target asteroids I just hit 'x' (target nearest object) and d/c (next closest/farthest) to cycle through targets. Autohotkey is best for juggling multiple clients. I have a simple F2 loop {meaning push F2 to activate} (look in the main AHK thread for my functions) that will cycle through all windows, target the group leader's target, and fire all guns. I also added in a way to activate specific skills on specific characters. Though, some are kinda wonky (shield sap will NEVER activate if G-link is pressed within 1 second of it, for...some bloody reason). Also, before you try to use ControlSend, Westwood appears to have completely disabled input to the game client (outside of bringing the window into focus) when the window is out of focus, so sending instructions to a window that is NOT the active one appears to be impossible. If you figure out a way how to, do tell! And yeah, I have 1080p monitors, but when multiboxing I play with 3 720p windows per screen (2 up top, one centered in the bottom). I can't see the entire window, but I can see the shield bars and current target of every char. Look at the "FPS Cap" thread for how to use Reshade to enable Vsync and thus make your multiboxing easier (without that the game tries to render at around 1000 FPS)

Thank you, I do appreciate this information. It has been quite the few years since I last played. I've aged as well, so tastes in games change. I am just looking to get my feet under me. This information does help. I've been looking at the Wiki as well. It is easy to understand in its formatting, so my gratitude to all those who invested time to it. First thing I need to do. Fix the key binds! I was doing some Prospecting to get an alt some Exploration xp, and it was disastrous. I couldn't target what I wanted to (F8 Default, really?! Not once would I of guessed that!) Is there a way to copy all settings between accounts, so I don't have to do it 6+ times? After that, I really need to figure out how to run multiple combat classes at once. Maybe if I made the Screens smaller? Can I "un-anchor" the cursor from the client? I am alt-tabbing. It gets a wee bit confusing since Windows reorganizes to most recent tab, not last opened. After all that. Maybe I will try to solo a Gate Raid? Fish-Bowl? Red-dragons perhaps. Those are all I can really remember of the game.

The end-game loop that Westwood envisioned was: Acquire raid gear Take hull damage acquiring other raid gear (combat was balanced around hull taking, and hull tanking eventually results in quality loss) Re-run old raids to acquire degraded gear For others of us, we build tools. Codemonkey and Winlander have been working on formatting/adding content to the wiki (as well as MANY others who added content in the 5+ years since its founding). I am working on a mapping tool that will show where all the ore fields, grav wells, mob spawns, etc are. I wrote an autohotkey script that simplified FN-NV trade runs down to pressing a single button over and over (plus walking around in stations manually). I wrote an AHK script that would let you easily move ores to alts without having to manually inspect them (good when mining fields with large level spreads that require mules). I made a tampermonkey script that changes the Account Vault to be click-to-select instead of drag-and-drop (it also adds filters). So...stuff like that can keep you busy. So...either you make your own meta content, you do the WW gameplay loop, or you say "ok, I won" and play another game.

After a very annoying week of troubleshooting, I was finally able to get the game installed. Once I did, I notice that I have 5 of the 6 "Classes" at 149-150 Range (lv49 Trade on the 149s of course. Remember that.) As well as inventories and vaults fill of items, ammos, and variety of loot. To be honest, I am at a loss of what to do. It has been so many years that I am unsure of what there is to even do. What is the end-game loop? Is it to farm items to breakdown so you can learn schematics? Raid? PvP? Faction grind? Right now, I am so overwhelmed that I don't know what the first step is. I could make new characters, but I will end up in the same boat. Do I need to multi-box to kill things? If so, how many? 2? 3? All 6? I am not looking to be hand-held. Just a direction of what there is to do. Possibly even how to start doing it. Any advice or suggestions would be so very appreciated. Especially if it is combat related and how many I need to bring for a hunt. Crafting as well is fine.. just some sort of idea. It has been way to many years, and way too many games, that I do not even know what there is to do.

An update. After 3+ days of trouble shooting. Scouring the internet (googling lawl) of solutions, and people with similar issues. Soft reformatting. Debugging. Installing 3rd party programs. Safe mode. You name it, I did it. Having NOTHING work. No sign of the issue as no error codes popped up. I gave up. I checked it one last time and it was still offline. Defeated, I restarted my PC and went about to look for other games to play. Shutting off the PC last night, I felt like checking one more time "Just incase'. No downloads happened, no installations. Nothing changed since last I looked. To my surprise. It was installed and turned on. How? I have ZERO idea. None what so ever. Everything I did had zero immediate effect. Codes for Cmd prompt. Installations. Resets. Reformats. Everything had no success. Yet, here we are. I guess.. when you give up. Things fix it self. That is the moral of the story I am going with.

Sounds to me that you are missing the older libraries. You can download and run the setup for the .Net Framework 3.5 from here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=21 When you have .Net 3.5 installed, rerun the setup of EnB + Net-7. After that, run EnBConfig.exe as administrator at the path CodeMonkey's post above. Hope this helps. :)

Definitely sounds like a Windows issue to me, I wouldn't mess with EnB anymore until you sort out what's going on with Windows Update and the .NET Framework; obviously neither of those have anything to do with EnB and it's simply a prerequisite for EnB to work. FWIW the E&B Config program mentioned in the instructions should be located at something roughly like: "C:\Program Files\EA GAMES\Earth & Beyond\EBCONFIG\E&BConfig.exe" There is also a newer fan-made tool bundled with the Net-7 install which is a bit nicer and endeavors to do the same things: "C:\Program Files\EA GAMES\Earth & Beyond\EBCONFIG\net7config.exe" (sometimes when one of these doesn't work for someone the other does) HOWEVER, I can't emphasize enough that these applications (which are mostly for setting up your video settings) aren't relevant at all and indeed might not even be getting installed yet if you aren't getting past the .NET Framework install. I'm a Linux guy so I can't really help you with Win11 Windows Updates (but Windows Update is a healthy part of why I'm a Linux guy, lol!) I would google things about trying to reset or cleanup Windows Updates... I'm guessing you've got some bad staged files that need to be cleaned up to let the updates continue and succeed. You might also try reverting to a recent system restore point if you have one that won't result in losing other changes you made since. Ultimately though I can about guarantee your issue has nothing to do with EnB and this forum is going to be of limited help in sorting out your issue beyond whatever general Windows troubleshooting expertise others can provide.

I have this same issue. It only happens on certain items. Any fix for this?

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I am at a complete loss as what to do. I have tried to install, uninstall, and reinstall both the EnB Demo and Net7 Launcher multiple times. Aside from the ENBConfig program, which I still cannot find. That is secondary to the fact that I cannot "Launch" Net7. I repeatedly get hit with the error mentioning "An app on your PC needs the following Windows Feature: .NET Framework 3.5 (includes .NET 2.0 and 3.0)" I allow the Net7 launcher to "search and install", which leads to a never ending load bar that requires Task Manager to shut down. If I shut off my PC while it is running, it does a "Windows Update" indefinitely. Requiring me to hard shut down. Both after hours of letting it "search". I've manually used the "Windows Features" program to turn it on, which once again leads to a never ending search/load. I've done everything I can think of, and nothing is working. I am unsure if it is a Windows issue, if there is some complication from the two programs I downloaded, or user error. Whatever the case, I do not know of a next step to take aside from returning to these forums and asking for help. If no one is able, capable, or willing. I will have to try again in a few weeks, or years, to immerse myself in nostalgia. It is quite frustrating. I believe I followed all instructions properly. Ask any question you think is needed if you can help. I will do my best to answer as clearly as possible. I do hope it is just a user error issue.

Hey, whoa, if that's what you're taking from any of my comments then please, don't misunderstand me. Just because *I, personally* might not: have a use for everything you create be willing to go through the trouble to get it working in my (very different) environment (which was mostly what I was saying here) OR even if it doesn't generally fit a common use case (i.e. multi-boxing in general, completely mining out entire sectors of the game, etc.) that doesn't mean it has "little to no value" *in general* and I certainly wasn't trying to imply that. I'm talking about specific use cases and largely giving opinions about my own personal use. I use your TamperMonkey script for the vault transfer page on a daily basis. I use a slightly modified version (so it works at any resolution as I have multiple systems with different configurations) of your vault stacking AHK script almost as often. This map tool you're working on is looking crazy awesome and I'm certain EVERYONE would find value in that. When it comes to this thing with GDIP or your NV<=>FN trade route deal which uses images and ImageSearch, etc. they are just a lot more complex and don't map directly to anything I'm trying to do. I completely understand how these purpose-built tools are the perfect solutions to the problems you created them for, they just aren't problems I have at the moment (i.e. transferring mountains of ore between dozens of characters across multiple accounts or running trade runs on six characters at once). I did try your NV <=> FN trade route and it was a cool idea, but it just wasn't very reliable for me which is hardly a surprise between linux and being at a different resolution (which I tried to account for by resizing the images, etc. but ultimately it just wasn't worth the hassle to get working reliably and a simpler approach / getting trade XP a different way made more sense for me personally at the time). I've since found that linux/wine seems to have other issues with AHK's PixelGetColor (and in turn PixelSearch) so that was also probably a contributing factor to the problems I was having. Anyway, I've probably beat this to death, but I just want to make it clear that I do really appreciate your contributions, even the wild ones that I don't (currently) see how or what I would use them for! Hopefully in the end you're making all these things for you and ultimately don't really care what I or anyone else thinks! ❤️ Some of us are probably just jealous we aren't retired and can only find time for stuff half this ambitious by not sleeping. 💤 😛

Ok ive opened a ticket. Thank you Woodstock

Unfortunately that's not true. Grail Water seems to be one of the rarest minerals in the game. I still haven't managed to mine out the 300 boronite for the chavez faction mission. No joke, I might actually hit 300 aesirium before I get 300 boronite. The main thing I'm looking forward to is finally having a list of "Ok, you want to find this ore? Here are the places to look." and have that be based on something approaching sane data. At least then I'll know I'm not crazy for thinking some minerals are super rare. To give you some sense, I have around 1/2 the sectors in the game mapped right now, and the size of the DB DOUBLED just from all the roid data. And my roid data storage is very efficient; only ints. So...yeesh. I will be rich beyond the dreams of avarice though. All of my TTs have at least 25m to their names just from selling stacks of refined lvl 8 ores. And that's *just* the extra stacks. I keep 1 (or more) stacks in reserve not just of lvl 8, but everything. The exceptions are the 'literally useless' ores like Firerock, Icy Pearl, Vaneon, etc. Things that have no uses either raw or refined. But yeah, my lvl 8 mule is full of ore, so it's time to sit down and write that script I had mentioned as making more sense instead of caching character IDs on the account vault page. By the time I sell off all the extra stacks I've gotten from just this most recent pass, I'd be shocked if I wasn't at 50m or better on all my TTs. at least I won't have to worry about money for a while. 😛 Fun note: the easiest way to move cash from one char to another is actually stacks of refined lvl 8 ore. Each stack is worth ~2m after negotiate is factored in. As for its utility to normal people, depends. I got the idea to mine with TT alts from another JE (before my JE was 150) and he had those TTs partially to sig-tank, and partially to hold ore. Back then I assumed the TS was going to be the best miner. Thankfully, he enlightened me to the utility of using the Martyr's Heart and a JE. The TS is a powerhouse, but it's kneecapped by it's lvl 8 reactor. Unless you intend to mine with a JS giving you every recharge and shunt buff there is...it just can't keep up with what a JE can do solo. Anyway, I do believe this will be useful to others. They probably won't need all 5 characters, but it is not hard to limit the source to only use 1/2/3/etc alts. I think the main problem is most people don't read the forums. In game, people are shocked to know there's a new mapping tool. Also, at a higher level, I think the code itself has merit. If one wants to learn autohotkey, what I'm doing is pretty clean, clear, and makes sense. GDIP is a PITA to use, but once you figure out what to do it's super powerful. autohotkey + GDIP helped me solve a $25 million problem IRL a few years ago. So...yeah. Part of sharing is also showing problem solving, solution options, and whatever else. I don't know why you feel the need to continually pretend my contributions have little to no value, but it is unappreciated and wrong.