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Ive multibox jobbed.  Dont do it often and when I notice the jobs are not coming through very fast or there is already a hoard of people around the Term I cut it down to one. I dont like sending out my toons unless they have all 6 job spots filled and fighting for a few jobs is hard enough with other players, no point in fighting with yourself. 

 I used my TT alot for the group bonus of getting more when selling loot to a vender and selling trade run goods to the correct trade vender and I can say it only works for the other players in the group if the TT is on the same station. Once the TT un-docks the group bonus only sticks around for a few seconds (the icon will flash then disappear). Now if your a TT and you group you also get the Bonus and you dont need anyone else on the station because your the TT. Now is this the way its  suppose to work? I have no idea.. I just know its the only way ive been able to get the bonus.       Hope this helps explain it alittle better.

    Have not thought of that but its a solid idea, thanks!

I would love to see a Chavez who also takes some something for there faction... Is it possible to create a new loot item that the Chavez drop (or a few loots items at different levels) that could turned in for faction?

    They work but there small and it would just be so much nicer to have a shortcut key to press.

 I posted this in response to another members post but did not get a response so I thought maybe is was overlooked and I really think its a good idea so im posting it as its own topic here.     Not sure how hard or if this is even possible but can you make a shortcut for this feature? The little crosshairs are small. We have a shortcut key to form when the leader has created a formation and that button is way bigger then the crosshairs button and its rarely used since most people dont break formation while fighting or use the "T" key to join/re-join formation, on the other hand when your fighting the group leader is constantly selecting a new target and while there is a shortcut for nearest mob (F8) sometimes the nearest to the leader is not the nearest to the person on the left or right of him so this is not a real effective way of knowing your both on the same target.  Would be nice to be able to hit an F# key or just any key on thats not already being used as a shortcut to target whatever the group leader has targeted.   Thanks. -WT

         Thats your style of playing, for me I would ask why the hell are you running away from the fight? So because you get some agro you tuck tail and bail untill its safe for you to return?  to me that makes no sence... to you its perfectly normal.   Its just two style of play.   And to be honest  whenever ive grouped with someone who was using beams ive never seen anyone play like that.. ive always seen them stay in formation and fight it out along side me.         Stanig- Im all for fixing exploits/issue with the game.. but I dont like that things are done to fix one problem only to create another issue that gives the player a disadvantage over others because a few people wanna run around and exploit bugs/issue.  But when you say "Dam right its gonna be nerfed" I take that as you would rather NERF and entire class of weapons instead of fixing the actual issue. You even said yourself there is a few issues with the Jenq race that allow them to do these things.. what those issues are I have no idea, but obviously you do.. so why not work on those issues rather then screw with a entire weapons class?   I hope I do not come off as a jackass in my post but sometimes its hard to understand where someone is coming from just by reading text. Im gratefull for all the work you guys are putting in and im just voicing my opinion/thoughts/suggestions on how to improve.

I think its a dumb idea. I understand thats how it was in "Live" but do we have to follow it 100%?  Sometimes its hard enough when grouped/formation just to get close enough to use beams and now  there gonna be reduced in power?  My PP does 2-3x the amount of damage my JS can and he can do it at ranges my JS cant even fire at, id be willing to bet just my Shield Inversion does half as much damage as my JS with lvl 7 beams..... and now you want to reduce him to a bb gun when he does get in range? Maybe some people can sit back and kill mobs without being seen but I know my JS cant right now.. ive never found a mob that I can kite from a distance where im not seen.   I understand that Projectiles and Missiles have to 'travel' to do damage but once you hit the MOB it turns at you which makes a few sets of rounds hit at almost the same time for some massive damage.  It works to your advantage since you can fire and start to back off before the MOB is ever agro'd at you there is several sets of rounds already heading his way where as with beams 1 shot instantly brings the agro and your already up close and personal...  Seems like the damage falling off past 50% range is just a way to force people to constantly combat cloak and fight outside of a formation since the other 2 weapon classes can push 1 button and sit back at a distance and impact full damage where someone with beams might not eve nbe within range to fire at all (I remember in ST3 being in a gorup and having ot ask the leader mob after mob to move in closer just so I could shoot..  You can put it in a nice box with a pretty bow and call this a 'Tactic' but in reality its a brown paper bag with #2 inside, and thats called NERFing.       The entire point of a formation is to be in close with your buddies for support and fight as a group.. not be forced to constantly move around the battle field outside the box of your buddies.  But from what Stanig said they are going to mess with this so Maybe find a way to make it so that when your grouped and in formation you get a damage increase to beams past 50%  Maybe have the dropoff at 100% range be only 75-80% Damage, at least then its a reward for being in formation and working as a team.   Opinions on this?   Edit:  I only played Live for a few months..and I was a JD and I do not recall my beams being any less lethal at range compared to up close... is this even a real feature of live?

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Thanks Stanig for putting in a good word during the meeting about the couples who play who can now no longer use the feature.. Maybe you can put in a good word about some of the ideas posted here on ways to help curb people from exploiting the feature.     Thanks everyone for the ideas on ways to adjust the feature, hopefully something good will happen and we can go back to enjoying it.

  I read the patch notes and I also like you thought this meant 2 IP's.. but if you read it again you will see it says "Multi boxers are only allowed to group gate with one toon from the same IP".. This means 1 toon,  not 1 in addition to the group leader who also shares the same IP.  Example. If someone else is the leader and you and your wife are in the group and the leader gates, only one of you will group gate, the other will get the message about not being able to follow the leader through the gate.  But when your both in the same group and one of you are the leader then it counts the leader as the 1 allowed from the same IP.. therefore your wife puts you over your limit. The only way to take advantage of the group gate feature now while multiboxing is if your NOT the leader and both toons are 2 different groups, both will gate... which is just not pratical unless your doing a raid and you happen to group up a few gates from raid area.

Not sure how hard or if this is even possible but can you make a shortcut for this feature? The little crosshairs are small. We have a shortcut key to form when the leader has created a formation and that button is way bigger then the crosshairs button and its rarely used since most people dont break formation while fighting, on the other hand when you fighting the group leader is constantly selecting a new target and while there is a shortcut for nearest mob (F8) sometimes the nearest to the leader is not the nearest to the person on the left or right of him so this is not a real effective way of knowing your both on the same target.  Would be nice to be able to hit an F# key or just any key on thats not already being used as a shortcut to target whatever the group leader has targeted.   Thanks. -WT

    I know the group gate is a very new thing (What maybe a little over a week?) but it was a feature that I liked alot since I Multibox and always have at least 2 logged in and normally they are grouped with each other and sometimes ill have all 3 comps running and have them grouped together for varies reasons. For me it saved quite a bit of time gating.. 3 Screens means 3x everything compared to one and it was nice to not have to repeat the gating feature 10x on 3 comps while moving from one hunting ground to another. I would compare the group gate to the autofire option.. Aint it nice to only have to push the button once?         I 100% agree and understand that some people were abusing the Group gate feature for explore XP and I knew it would only be a matter of time before something was done, what I did not expect was that the people who do multibox would be totally cut off from using the feature on two toons at 1 time.  Obviously you would like everyone to be at the computer 100% of the time while playing but it is nice when your in a group going from A to B and you have someone to do some of the work for you while you take a short break to eat,smoke, bathroom or whatever.  Not to mention that there are people here who play with other members in the same household who cant take advantage of the group gate feature now. I know I used to be one of those people who played this game in a house where someone else also played.   -- Is there anyway to configure a limit so that 2 or even 3 people in a group with the same IP can use this feature? That would cut down quite a bit on the amount someone could abuse the feature for explore XP while still allowing the multiboxers to take advantage of the feature while grouped with themselves.     Thanks, WT

Nice to see that there is a list out there now, Ive added a few items that I know of although the spelling may be a letter or two off but you get the point.   I noticed under "tools" there is a "protect sheet" option where you can appoint certain people to be able to add/delete/edit info.  Maybe we should pick a few people to do this, post up there emails and when people want to have something added just shoot it there way? Might prevent people deleting info weather on purpose or by accident. Making a seperate email and linking it to an existing account is easy enough if anyone on here is hesitant to give out the email they use on a daily basis.     I know more then I listed but I cant think of MOB names and dont wanna jot down wrong info so ill get my notes in order and continue to add.

 I have asked and have received multiple answers as far as location/timers.. Some people revert back to Live, some people think they know.. only to find out there wrong. Thats why I asked here.. Dont see the problem with having a central list people can checkout for items.