spacegrrrl

Wow, what a stupid reply. And Avani, what "we" are you refering to? You certainly weren't asked for anything. You need a compatible DB to do that 'learnin. It's my understanding there hasn't been one for some time as there was an out of date one that needed a script to make functional and that was all lost when the big server crash happened. That's the real point of this thread if you'd bothered to really read it. There had been some fear that a competing splinter group was trying to set up their own server and there was a "lock down" on support for home servers but that cat has left its bag and sailed some time ago. After that was clear there was a promise to do a DB release of some sort. I agree this not an "urgent/pri one" request, but there has been a DB shaped hole that has kept some folks interested in learning more about the project blocked for some time. I'm not screaming for this to happen immediately but I am going to continue to ping folks so it does happen eventually. I think there are a number of folks that would agree this is ultimately good for the project and the support of the community. And Cdel, I agree, school first, E&B second, this third-ish, if you get some time free. Spacegrrrl

Thanks, Just wanted to keep it on the radar for when you get a free moment. Spacegrrrl

Just wondering if there was an updated guide and db posted? So pinging for a status update. Spacegrrrl

Spacegrrrl hugs C Del! Just wanted to keep it on the radar. I know this is something that has caused some heated emotions but I think getting some variation of the DB available so someone really could build the source and learn the inner workings of the project is important. So thanks in advance for taking this on, Spacegrrrl

Pinging again about some sort of functional database release. Old and incomplete is fine if it works with the current code base. Finally built a new new dev box and want to start playing with getting the server running again. Clearly there already are splinter groups running servers so the cat/bag relationship seems already established. Spacegrrrl

There was a bug when the game was live that let you do this. I always wondered if that would work here. Looks like it must! I think the issue is that the models don't have all the animations and somehow that could break things. Spacegrrrl

What he said, at some point last year something seemed to change a bit in the attitudes of the folks that seem to make the decisions for this project. It lost a 'everyone pitch in, this will be awesome, group hug" feeling and becasme a "I am so close to taking my toys and going home" attitude. First the databases were witheld and now you need a secret handshake to put up a private server. In the end I expect whichever group has the most open and inclusive attiudes towards the community will dominate. I know my support will go to whichever group most embraces a sense of open community. I also hope any splinter group considers trying to get the game back to just like E&B at sunset (with the extra character types as a stretch goal). I really feel changes in the game now are making this a similar but still different game. These differences make me less interested in this project every change from the original that gets made. Spacegrrrl

I am very happy to hear this remains "open". :-) Spacegrrrl

Thanks for the clarification. Spacegrrrl

Is it true that the SVN is no longer complete? (not counting the DB of course) If that's the case that seems like a change in the way the project is now being managed. I was wondering if that's the case when (and who made) that decision was made. I hope that's really not the case and seems really strange as there was a recent anouncement that the schemas have been updated and released. Now totally confused about the intent of this project, Spacegrrrl

So is there a change in attitude about private servers? Before it always seemed clear that the idea of someone bulding and running the server was supported and even expected as someting you'd do if you wanted to eventually join the dev team. I understood the idea that current data wouldn't be released to keep folks from using it to "cheat" but that was the only time I'd heard that the greater team was concerned about someone building the source and setting up a server. So are private servers now forbidden? There was the restriction that a "competing server not be allowed on the internet but this seems to go beyond that restriction. If this is true then I think that this is a sad change in thinking. If it is the case could someone please make a public staement to the full community that this is now a "closed' project. Spacegrrrl

So is that one compatible with the current source? At one time I thought there was a script that was needed to be able to use the older database. I am sure there are tons of things in queue and I see how this is lower priority. Like I said ealier I just wanted to "ping" this. Spacegrrrl

Hi, I was wondering is there is an ETA for a DB since the old "compatible db" seems to have been a victim of the evil crash some time back. Just hoping to keep this on the radar. Thanks in advance, Spacegrrrl

I thought there was a DB available that was less current but still compatible with the current source code. As I remember there was a script you needed to run as well to bring something current. Are these still available? When those were released we were promised to update those occasionally. It seems like a refresh might be appropriate. Spacegrrrl