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Why I feel like reporting these is a waste of time: 1. 'Real issue, specifically the tool tip is wrong.' -> outcome from my point of view: Devs will always side with whatever makes life harder for you. When you find a bug, they will pick the most soul-crushing outcome. 2. No bug -- report wasted. Outcome: Every time I find a lvl 9 ore I can continue to expect half of them to be lvl 8s. Finding level 9s stop being special and becomes something bland because there is no way to count on anything good coming from any source it's supposed to. Said another way, you gave me a carrot on a stick, and then took away the carrot, and wonder why I have no desire to do anything. 3. Legit bug! Yay! 4. Based on 1 and 2, why? So you could take something away that's actually useful? I'd like the game fixed as much as you, but I want it fun too. Here, I'll give you a carrot on a stick too, make a waterloo V, equip it, buff yourself, then power down. Have fun. 5. 'No bug. We'll use them later...maybe.' Outcome: same problem as the ore example above. I see something and say "Oh goodie, a stick!" and then find out there's no carrot. It doesn't make me find something else, it makes me hate you for lacking good game design. When was the last time you played a game where doors opened into giant middle fingers or guns killed you instead of your enemies and then the game laughed at you for daring to think mechanics were going to work as they do in literally every other video game? Or how about the last time you picked up a paperback book and it was written in 4 point font. Or in Comic Sans. Or with rainbow text. These conventions exist for a reason. I've seen the dev tools. If your tools cannot let you write down where it is now and then put it back, improve them, because that shit is totally possible. 6. Bug...maybe. So in the end, 2 things get fixed. 4 things remain the same. By helping you I force everyone, myself included, to encourage you to continue having bad game design as an argument against fixing things. *sigh* This is why I feel like I'm wasting my time. I find bugs for a living. Literally my actual fucking big-boy job is finding bugs in multi-million dollar equipment. I come here to relax. I find the same attitudes I find at work. "It's not our problem, it is *their* problem." "Ok, we'll fix it by changing the spec!" "That's not a bug, it's working as intended...nevermind what the rest of the industry/IEEE/T10/etc say! We r teh spekle snowflak!" It's exhausting. I chase these assholes down at work so your clouds and cell phones keep working. I come here and I have no big stick to smack you with because I am not a critical part of your organization. I left once for a year, I guess it's time for another hiatus. It's not good for you or me that I get this stressed out over a game whose client is so old it's basically held together with bubble gum and hope at this point. >.<

Also, since the cloaking one is so easy to prove...have a video!

JE Cloak: Nope. Fly at warp with a lvl 3 or 4 reactor, activate rank 6 cloak, watch a huge chunk of your reactor disappear and stay gone. I don't demand lvl 9 (or any other level) be chock full of certain ores. But I do think it is really dumb that a level 9 roid only contains lvl 8 ores and 0 lvl 9 ores. This happens very frequently, and I don't believe that every.single.field I've found (including several I didn't put on the wiki as a control group) are all being cherry picked. I have never ranked up the powerdown skill above rank 1. The behavior can be recreated with a new character (lvl 0 -- or whatever lvl you are when you get Powerdown), assuming you can get appropriate buffs on the character. I opened a bug about the job terminals as well and was told it was working as intended. But it makes no sense to have job terminals with no jobs. Just remove the terminal. *sigh* Just use another comp then. Digiapogee, Anthor, CE3K, just...use something that instantly tells people 'not store bought'. Don't mess up trends that exist in the entire rest of the game purely because you want something to be difficult to build. It's like me taking your personal car and swapping the positions of the fuel fill hole and oil dipstick. It makes no sense, and literally every person on the planet hates your special snowflake of a car. Same principle.

Which of these are bugs and which are 'working as intended'. At best we'll agree to disagree on 'working as intended'. JE Cloak lvl 6 consumes 250 power on activation. Tooltip says it should consume 0. Ima go ahead and assume lvl 7 consumes 500 power, because, ya know, standardized code? Level 9 asteroids (and all other levels > 1) sometimes (frequently) containing 0 lvl 9 ores, only lower level ones. IE: lvl 5 roid has only lvl 3/4 ores. Lvl 3 roid only has 1/2, etc. Level 9 hulks have less (10-30) Debris than their lvl 8 counterparts (45-55). This is not offset by Wrecked Slag or any other loot. PS Powerdown skill allowing recharge of shields/reactor despite being rank 1 (0 recharge allowed). Additionally, reactor and shield can be drained under certain circumstances as well by the same issue. Job terminals in star bases that have no jobs. (Why have a job terminal then? I know you can put them in and take them out. Why not just take out the ones that don't list any jobs?) Evolver PrimerMax 3000 is not sold by any vendors, despite having Evolver in the name and literally all other Evolver parts being vendor-sold. I've re-checked all of these since the patch. They are all still persistent.

1% difference on quality loses me 15.8 recharge?! I'm hoping it's a display glitch...*goes outside to test* 200%: 3366 recharged in 53.38 seconds 199%: 3366 recharged in 53.38 seconds *phew* ok. Just a display bug. Scared me for a minute there.

Ah E&B emulator. Where we ressurect an old game, keeping the flaws everyone agreed it had in live, so we can sit on a forum and bitch about pixels for four pages. Why? Because the devs want epic loot to be rare. Can we all stop and laugh at the insanity of this debate? This fighting is over a problem that exists only because it is allowed to continue existing. The players are not to blame for a problem they did not create and do not maintain. Treaties and agreements have their place, but the fact that people have heartburn over this is not the players' fault.   This raid has been here for years. I think any legitimate claim to the loot needing to still be rare 3+ years on is...long since dead. Feel free to continue feeling bitter, but...at least admit I'm correct.

I wrote a thing to deal with the nested dependencies that define agrippa (seriously, I don't want to think about how many Vodka I need to build 15 Flechettes, 3 reactors, and a couple shields/devices, plus other turn ins and whatever else!) Or, in the case of Stage III Encryptions, I don't want to have to figure out how many bits I need to make X SOOAs, which means X Hull Mesh, and Collegia Auth bits. Bleh!   http://net-7.org/wiki/index.php?title=Agrippa_Material_Requirement_Script<--so there's my work. Feel free to add missing recipies, such as Flechette Beta/Gamma.

Thanks.

Can anyone confirm/deny that once you've completed stage 1 Agrippa, stages 2/3 can be started/completed without issue with HU135/OL150? Or is there still an optimal time to do stage 2/3 prior to hitting 150?

Aren't hardpoints typically defined in the game clients, not by the servers?

Ah! Hello other super-active wiki member person! Good to know your forum name. Every time I logged in to use my admin rights they were gone. :p I was going to clean up some dangling pages (redirects that shouldn't exist). That said, I agree with you. One admin would barely need to lift a finger to keep tabs on what is happening. The activity log I posted shows just how few people really contribute. :p

Actually Kingdud still logs in and makes sure everything is sane. He promoted Croddam and I to admins since we are the two who are the most active, then someone on the dev team took away our admin rights on the database side (left no logs in wiki user rights log, which means someone with database access flipped some bits, or rolled back a database snapshot). So I mean, I understand he went AWOL and isn't a wonderful person to the other devs, but...overtkill, to my knowledge, has never made a single commit to the wiki (if he has, what username?) Failing that, pick someone who actually contributes to the thing. :P   edit: Here's the active user's list for the wiki   http://net-7.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special%3AActiveUsers   (I re-ordered the list below to be in order of number)     Croddam  [192 actions in the last 30 days]     Doctor [52 actions in the last 30 days]     Hexersup [6 actions in the last 30 days]     Kingdud [3 actions in the last 30 days] (blocked)     Prrekoorb [2 actions in the last 30 days]     Wxguesser26 [2 actions in the last 30 days]     Cantrec [1 action in the last 30 days]     Shaddex [1 action in the last 30 days]     FireRibs [1 action in the last 30 days]

The wiki has a list of farming spots, though none of them are above lvl 30 or so. High level players feel free to contribute!

http://net-7.org/wiki/index.php?title=Crossbow_II http://net-7.org/wiki/index.php?title=Crossbow_V   Apparently no one has put in where the 3 and 4 crossbows drop. :(

There's also a wiki for this stuff. Net-7.org/wiki   Personally, I didn't find enb.ca that useful. The info was true during live, but the devs have diverged from that where they felt like it.