Tradermagoo
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@ Allura
At times some guilds do not have enough people online that day or 2 days and can offer up the raid to the public/other guilds
Say we are short people to do a guild day raid and know we wont get enough people online that day to do a raid we can offer it up to the public with our help.
So say it's VGE's off week and they have the people to do it or aid us they can offer to help us do the raid( it has happened before btw)
Maybe a few public people can come along and have a shot at the loot.
Since it's BI's week it's our guild loot rules(need before greed)
We do the raid and everyone can roll on the items( and yes we have had public people along and they have won gear).
That is one senario that comes to mind.
I'm sure others can come up with others.
That is my general interpretation of that part.
Take 2
If we decide to make it a fully public raid then all 4 guilds can send people and the public can come along.
We'll ask the say 8 people from the 4 guilds to split up and take over a group 2-3 people each then invite public people till get get between 12-15-16 avatars ready.
Then run the raid as the hosting guild.
I've yet to see a blacklisted guild( altho if the goon's I've heard about from eve show up i know they wont be loved for long).
I for one in take 2 would require the big 3-4 guilds to not take loot and let the pubbies roll on it.
I would suggest to all of the people not in the bigger guilds to download teamspeak and ventrilo and log in and join the more public guilds and talk to us and join in our raids.
BI for one uses the dev's teamspeak.
So does Epic.
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I for one would like to see a 12 person public group try and knock out one of the 3 raids by themselves.
Yeah the 3 major guilds because of experience and practice typically do these raids with 2 groups and a few hangers on.
Do you honestly believe you could get a disorganized group of 12-18 people together run the raid and distribute loot that is fair to everyone?
I for one would like to see you do it.
As for loot:
I've had pretty standard loot rules in places for years running BI.
Need before greed.
If you need it roll on it no favoritism( and kudos to the random generator(said tongue in cheek) may the best roll win.
Everyone gets something they want eventually you just have to keep playing the random game.
It took me the guild leader about 15 rd base raids to get a chang lung's pride and 4 more before I got the ya zi long's hellbore.
7-8 people had one before i did and I run the joint.
So yes people get what they want but it takes time.
With that said I've had since jan 2010 to sort out the looting rules.
Do you think a public group could do the same with random people they may or may not like?
Good luck I'd suggest you tackle Gobb or the Troller first before you attempt to do the rd base without people you can trust backing you up.
As for why we do this with the rotation this is the last time I want to answer this question.
It's simple, BI ran the raids because most of the warrior types in the guild are european.
We did all 3 raids before everyone else got home from work.
Static and VGE were getting mighty pissed about the entire situation and to stop an all out guild war Lannister( bless his heart) with the help/participation of the other guilds hammered out a tentative agreement to rotate the raids.
Since then we have altered the rotation to allow ( upwards of 5 guilds at one point) into the rotation.
Since we went live there has been 3 guilds that could and can do all the raids in the game.
BI Static VGE.
Since we had an agreement in place to not interfere with the other 2 guilds we are agressive about new guilds trying to knock off "our" raids.
I for one encourage people to get groups together and do mordana and fish raids to get a good core group or two together before they try and tackle a major 2+ group raid.
BUT... you will find the 3 major guilds are pretty agressive about new groups trying to get a raid in.
BI tends to do raids in the morning EST because of the makeup of the guild roster.
VGE and Static are more american eccentric in makeup and do theirs more during the day and evening.
Epic is trying to get into the rotation with the other 3 guilds and since they are not part of the original agreement they must petition to join the rotation they have taken the needed steps required to do so.
There is some things to work out between us and them and once it's settled they are in or out based upon our votes.
It's not rocket science but you have to pass muster.
Did you ever get anywhere by telling 300 people no and expecting them to like it?
Would you like to get 2-3 groups up from the public and knock off a raid once in a while?
Go for it if you have started I know BI will just watch and finish the raid if you flop.
I do not know how Static and VGE wil react but knowing them I'd say your odds are not great.
I dunno why people make such a big deal out of this tbh.
Epic wants to join the rotation and were trying to see the process done.
It's simple really there is no blocking or any other nonsense going on but we 3 guilds have an agreement and this is how you join in the agreement.
If you want to be independant of our agreement that is by your choice but do not expect to get away with it very easily.
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Niko and Canman can you guys relay your vote for the guild to Overt and get it added to the tally in the PM were working from.
That way we can hash out anything that needs it to be handled between us and move along with this.
PM seems to cause a lot less hair pulling around here.
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I'm curious why someone would down vote my post..
Boy I guess simplicity gets under peoples skins..
Good luck on the raid Epic.
I hope we can settle the rotation question fairly quickly and maintain the peace that has been so nice as of late.
As for letting epic in on saturday there has been no vote or discussion on this subject..
Not everything is assumed.
Do you guys want to vote here or do you want to get into teamspeak/ventrllo and hash this out.
Wednesday nights and sunday's are my best time for meetings I can be here any day between noonish and 8pm est everyday.
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I'm waiting for you guys to get together and set up a day.
I'm for adding a skip week and letting them in.
If this is fair to vge/static/epic let me know what my skip week is and I'll amend my channel rotation and go with it.
If you want to do something different let me know I watch this thread every day or two.
Come on VGE someone wake up your management.
This is the current rotation.
Static - RD Base / GoBB / Troller
VGE - GoBB / Troller / RD Base
Builders - Troller / RD Base / GoBB
Epic ?/?/?This is a simple solution.
Static - Skip / RD Base / Gobb / Troller
VGE - Troller / Skip / Rd Base / Gobb
Builders - Gobb / Troller / Skip / Rd Base
Epic - Rd Base / Gobb / Troller / SkipIf you guys like it were on the troller this week which leads BI to a skip next week we can start this without any fuss.
Epic Static VGE
You guys need to vote on it, just put up a yes/no as a vote and we can go from there.
My one concern for all involved is can epic do the raids at least twice a week or are they willing to give up a raid to skip week guild if they can't so as to not waste the spawn?
Care to answer that Epic since that has been my concern all along?
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I run 1675/990 did you uncheck full screen?
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who says who gets in the rotation? who has that authority? things like that are still being discussed
This argument does not need to be here..
Builders Inc.
Static
Voncorp
Are the three guilds responsible for the raid rotation.
We have the player bases to do the raids when they spawn Epic is working on getting into the rotation.
So I hope that solves your question
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Since we only have 3 raids currently we split I'm foreseeing a skipped week till new content comes in.
I'm not getting into an argument with zohawn and liucee
This is not the place for personal animosity take it to pm.
This is about the raid rotation.
If you continue it in this forum thread i'll have a moderator remove all of your posts from this thread.
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You guys will find gobb and the troller similar difficulties the rd base..
Well let us just say you might ask for help the first couple times around..
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Congratulations guys.
To Static and VGE we will need to get together with Epic and plan the raid schedules and voice concerns.
I'm usually free most days during the day.
We can use teamspeak and I can lock a room with a password if needed.
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All right it's 10 am mst/12pm est and we are just finishing GOBB I am assuming a 40-48 hours spawn it'll be up around 6am to noon est friday morning.
VGE Static you are the next part the raids arranged can one of you put up a witness for the raid or shall i ask someone to do it?
As for Darkk about time slacker >;)
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Not seeing much discussion here about friday.
I hope we don't find epic at the raid without asking us first..
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Taking it one step further how about a timed job say you will have 3 manes ( 2 64's and a 66) spawn at f7 or omp and attack anything and they have 5 minutes to setup and get there and be ready to defend the base.
Make it warp to f7 to trigger if not set in say 5-10 minutes and warped in the mission is forfiet and charge em a million credits. 25million maybe.
Make em pay if they fail also.. That should perk people up.
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I've always felt we needed some 165 type jobs maybe from paramis/BBW.
Make em group jobs and make it hard enough you need 3-4 people ( use say 62-65 mobs)
Frankly the 150 jobs in xt ( combat wise) i feel are to easy for the 140+ max weapon toons.
Make it where everyone has to be 150 3 people grouped min.
This is a team based game and solo aspects so leave xt solo and make bbw/paramis group only big mobs(groups of mobs) ( nothing like a 66 manes popping up at a nav)
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As far as I know the raid timers are not effected by shutdowns now, so the timer will execute based on when the last raid was run, no matter if there was a patch or crash.
The are not affected by server reboots the GoBB trigger was up around 9am MST 11am est( I was texted when they saw it up).
This is assuming Static did the raid thursday early afternoon.
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We'll have GoBB 4 time this week again.
We can't be that specific on a day since we have no idea when the mobs will spawn exactly.
We'll offer up friday again this week if they want to give it a go.
VGE Static up to you guys.
We know it'll spawn friday( exact time is always a question..)
Offer stands.
We did GoBB saturday morning so it wont be up till monday again.
And I for one am of the feeling if they can't put a group up for any specific day they are not ready to join us.
It'll be a lot of wasted triggers if they only do the raid once a week on sundays does that mean anyone can do them monday-friday?
Or?
Discuss.
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Funny Vid Hobbs and was a funny movie too.
How can Epic Gamers get put into Raid rotations?
Simple ask one of the big 3 guilds to contact one of the guild leaders we'll arrange a day for you to tackle a raid and see what happens.
We'll get the rd base 4 times this week Can you be ready friday afternoon to tackle it?
Also i have let all 4 guilds know BI will not help Epic from taking other guilds raids..
I hope were past that?
Contact me ingame epic and we'll set it up if you really want in and I hope you bring your A game and a lot of ammo.
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Hope you guys like the tiles.
If you space them and look at the model floating you will see the 2 sides and the wood grain and different colors.
The 64/64 postage stamp sized 2d asset you guys see does nothing for what they really look like.
Please.
Enjoy.
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I am always willing to help/guide new guilds and players in the way the game is played.
If we can arrange for the raids to be during the day say noon to 6pm mst(mountain time) I can drive give advice and help out as needed.
I do not need loot. I have a fairly large guild to help with that.
I have extensive knowledge of the raids and how they should be done and i know how to set groups up for raiding.
2 things if it's a triggered raid(fb/gate raid for example) please have the trigger handy.
The feathers and barrier of ooze are hard to get for a reason.
Second off relax man it's a game and you are here to relax and learn and have fun.
Make sure you are ammo'd and geared up and get teamspeak or ventrillo installed.
The dev's have provided a teamspeak server for you to use. www.teamspeak.com gets you the client and ts.net-7.org is the connection address.
I'm typically in teamspeak and willing to answer questions(if I'm in the graphics channel or my poke only room poke me do not just drop in and start being a noisy pita I made the channel on purpose).
Non triggered raids such as mordana and others be prepared have your ammo and debuffers and buffs ready to go.
We normally use teamspeak and call 2 minutes to get buffs done and then start the raid.
Some people are probably not used to that kinda gameplay but it's effective at getting people motivated when the lead tank says fire it up and your lollygagging around..
So again I know I'll help and so will my guild.
Good luck in the game and relax.. It is just a game..
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Useful /slash/ commands for raids....
/credit kill <player> used to establish the looter. This command must be used by each group leader once the group has been established. If a member of the group disconnects, gates or is dropped/added to the group the command must be re-issued.
/loot add <player> used by the designated looter to allow access to the corpse of a boss to loot a non-trade item. Also can be used if the corpses of a raid are locked out to the looter. When that happens the group leader should target every corpse and perform the command on each one. This can be done quickly in most cases to allow the looter to get all the corpses before they destroy.
/target <player> often used by healers and Jumpstarters in the massive and confusing groups. This command is a bit buggy and the Devs need to look at this. Also there are hot keys within the client you can setup to do this. F keys are often used.
/assist <player> Used to select the target that is being attacked by <player> and can be used as a hot key using the custom-hotkey method or typed in. If you are in group with the person you are supporting you can also click the target icon on their name in the group listing to the left. This command also appears to be buggy. It may or may not work reliably... Another thing Devs need to look at.
/random X X X This is used to do the lotto portion of the raid, to select who gets the loot. Example > /random 1 100 will put a random number from 1 to 100 in the BROADCAST channel for all to see it. Group is /random 1 100 3, etc. Whoever is doing the looting/lotto of a raid should be highly familiar with the command and the process of doing a lotto. The big guilds often use a system to raffle the loot off... I'll make another post about that.
/delag 100 This command reduces lag and load on the video card greatly. It causes the client to ignore many unimportant data like ship details on other ships (color decals etc). Also reducing your graphics sliders under OPTIONS to about 1/2 level is a good idea.. it looks like crap but you will have far less lag and problems.
/trade <player> will open trade with the <player> designated. When you are the looter and you are trying to give an item to someone quickly this is a life saver.
When using the /assist command the prime targeter/tank needs to type /noassist and watch the computer messages and make sure that you are allowing assistance.
the /random command is /random 1 100 no number for group/computer(if solo)
/random 1 2 1 puts it in local chat.
/random 1 2 2 puts it into guild chat
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I agree with Kenu. The 3d art look good, but the 2d art need some work. I dont know why you just dont recolor the original 2d art independantly of the 3d art, but i guess it's a limitation of the old engine.
I'll answer that question in this way.
The original artwork you see in the game is a 64/64 2d screen shot of the model itself.
If you have ever manipulated a small picture file and made it larger you know exactly why I make all new files.
Westwood used 3dsmax 3-4 (not sure on which version) to make an alpha channel rendering of the model which is what is used in the game.( and the main reason why the 2d assets i make look different)
I do not have that luxury.
I use a model viewer to take screen shots of the work I have done.( I might screen shot the model 50 times or more getting the position and colors right)
And then use photoshop to produce it for ingame content.( there is specifics i can't get into). You could use Gimp I happen to like photoshop more.
I'm still fairly new to photoshop and I've learned a tremendous amount about how game textures and 2d assets work and how to produce them.
With that said I do NOT "photoshop" the 2d assets to much pain involved.
I use the original artwork to start with and change it around to match what I am asked to do. (if you know anything about model texturing you will know why)
The blacksun/inzen texture(model skin) was fully rebuilt except in a couple areas.
This model just had the invisible part changed only and is the artwork westwood produced ( the invisible part controls where the colors flash only)
As i explained in the above post with the screen shots that the game is making some wierd lighting changes on this model's 2d assets.
So i hope this answers some of the questions people have.
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Maybe my opinion will help.
When I changed the original texture I DID NOT change it's colors or anything I changed the alpha channel to get rid of the wierd looking flash the model had from westwood.( see kenu's screen shot on his ship)
That was all that was changed.
The texture is IDENTICAL to what westwood put out.
The problem i'm running into is when i make the screen shots in the model viewer to put into the game they go grey. Titanium whatever you want to call it.
This was not done intentionally and the ingame 2d assets look nothing like the files that are in the game and we have not been able to figure out why.
I'm going to show you what the screen shots look like and what the game is doing and I hope you understand it's out of my hands atm while trying to sort this out.
ScreenShot04.png is originally in tga format ( which the game can handle btw) and is the screen shot which made the i_pu39f.png( it's a dds file format ingame)
I have to convert them to upload here for you to see.
It's supposed to be transparent in the game and looks very nice as you can see.
And when I put it into my client on my computer. ( see the client 2013 files)
This is what happens, all 4 of the pitbull pictures you see are based off the same picture.
If you can explain to me why it does this and how to fix it I'd appreciate it.
I've even gone as far as to put the original dds file from westwood into photoshop next to the new one and they look fairly close ( mine isn't as Shiney) blame the model viewer for that.
Remember except for the invisible part of the texture (the skin of the model) the texture is identical to westwoods.
These are new picture btw, done today in photoshop trying to solve the problem.
And I hope this allays the suspicions I'm changing the original 2d assets from westwood.
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We were talking about this in new player so i thought I would start this thread.
How did you get/aquire/create your nicknames in game.
Mines pretty simple I enjoy jim bacchus and his voice and was a long time gilligans island fan in the 70's.
So his most endearing character was his voice in Mr Magoo.
So I started off as Magoo and since I noticed quite a few and went hrmm..
So my first name is Scott and I've gone by scooter in the past and said it together one day and liked it.
So Scootermagoo is my online nickname I use the different front parts of the nickname for muitiple alts and various things.
So for 12 years now I've been one form of magoo or another.
EA Live I had Scooter(te) Evil(ps) Devil(pw) and now I have 7 named magoo's now because of the 9 alts I have.
So how did you get your nickname?
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Zackman said "The first "saturday patch" will be on 24th Aug. - therefore 27th Aug. will be the first tuesday w/o a patch,"
Senario 1:
So according to this the tuesday patch is on the 20th(tomorrow).
Then the server is rebooted again saturday the 24th.
We get this week as the rd base(BI) and saturday starts the new week at rotation, and we start again.
Senario 2:
Tuesday the 20th patch day is skipped and it's rebooted saturday the 24th.
Extend the current rotation till saturday when the server is rebooted, then switch weeks.
If we get lucky and have a long week yahoo if not shift happens and we suck it up and move on.
Senario 3:
Ignore tuesday the 20th's reboot and stick to the current week and start saturday. (BI troller currently)
Unless VGE and Static want to change the rotation again I'm easy either way it works out.
in Guild General Discussions
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Static –Troller /skip/Rd Base/GoBB
BI - GoBB /Troller /Skip/Rd Base
VGE - Rd Base/GoBB/troller/Skip
Pubs - Skip /Rd Base/GoBB/troller
I am awaiting Static and VGE's vote in our pm between us before we go ahead with this.
You guys know I let VGE and Static set the rotation.
Second do we start the rotations the next week if ratified. or do we pick a specific week and start then?