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I think this entire discussion is way off and has absolutely no bearing what so ever on anything pertinent to the original topic.  Daath, you should not exclude yourself based on anyones opinions other than your own.

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I'm not saying put anyone above your folks... but I have been talking to folks that are not in EG, not in any of the Big 3 and they want to raid too... since they are not in any of these guilds they are excluded from the content as the situation stood...

 

I see Static has tabled an open week, with the stipulation that Static can't help Public or participate.. I think that is a bit off base, but that is between y'all in Static and the other guilds... I for one would love to have Static, VGE and BI people help out on the Public rotation, especially those who need the pieces from the raids Public is doing... It would be a great way for the big 3 to show support for the rest of us and a chance for your people to get another shot at a raid or two they need things from.... I see absolutely nothing wrong with that, just like VGE having people fill slots in a raid for BI when they are short handed and such...

 

Many people need items from these raids, I think the "Public" rotation should be a community effort not excluding the Big 3 but INCLUDING them in that rotation as well....

 

Big 3 guilds with the raid experience will be needed for a long time to help people learn how to do them, it could also be a good place to find out if you like a guild and their people for a potential home for a person who has not been in one of the big 3... It has many opportunities for the Big 3 and everyone else to play TOGETHER... Not just keep in our own little camps and throw snow-balls at eachother...

 

Does that make sense to anyone? 

 

And if it makes you feel better, I wont ever bid on a raid item again, but I will still attend every raid I am asked or able to ... No more bits for my toons ever.. not one... ever again... Just because I got lucky on a roll to a raid your folks invited ME to is not a roll won for the dozen or so people out there that have never even SEEN one of these raids but wants to..

i just dont want an open, socialist emu like that.

 

also, i still cant believe what im hearing from you " cant cant cant". if none of the big 3 show up on the pub week then i would still like to see the pubs attempt the raid.

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i just dont want an open, socialist emu like that.

 

also, i still cant believe what im hearing from you " cant cant cant". if none of the big 3 show up on the pub week then i would still like to see the pubs attempt the raid.

Socialist?  This isn't a country, it is a group of about 100ish people that play a game... I don't see your reasoning...

 

If none of the big 3 show up, who knows we (the rest of us) may or may not be able to pull it off.. But by all means you don't have to help... I am not saying you MUST.. I am say that it is welcome if you chose to do it, no one will throw mud at you and such... You do what you like Zohawn, that is your option, but I certainly hope the others in your guild and the other 2 major guilds don't feel as you do.. I'd love to raid with them and I think 99% of the people in the EMU are good folks and I'd like every opportunity to kick some RD butt with them... 

 

This isn't about a socialist EMU, it is about having fun...

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Socialist?  This isn't a country, it is a group of about 100ish people that play a game... I don't see your reasoning...

 

If none of the big 3 show up, who knows we (the rest of us) may or may not be able to pull it off.. But by all means you don't have to help... I am not saying you MUST.. I am say that it is welcome if you chose to do it, no one will throw mud at you and such... You do what you like Zohawn, that is your option, but I certainly hope the others in your guild and the other 2 major guilds don't feel as you do.. I'd love to raid with them and I think 99% of the people in the EMU are good folks and I'd like every opportunity to kick some RD butt with them... 

 

This isn't about a socialist EMU, it is about having fun...

 

 

i think its about entitlement.

 

youre last few posts have, imo, gone way over board in what you expect from people you dont know.

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excluded who? the rotation isnt even for the player base its for the devs. the server cant handle 50 people sitting in 1 area for hours on end. no one will get anything. this is the ONLY reason theres a rotation.

 

Let me be clear.  Any guild rotation agreements are for the guilds.  The Dev team has no say, and no interest in regulating agreements between guilds or getting involved in guild politics.  As far as any lag during raids, steps have been implemented that allow you to reduce your lag/visuals, and I am not aware of any ongoing issues.

 

As I see no reason to leave this topic open, it is now closed.

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