Mining question

[Wyverlunder]

I've been away from the game for 7 years, and all the mining spots i used to enjoy have changed. Either the ore levels are different, or there are no ores at all, or there are mobs that spawn so repeatedly, i have no time to actually mine, just fight.  I'm looking for some 7-8-9 locations without the never ending assault of 30 second respawns. Not looking to macro mine, just looking for something to enjoy while bored. P.S. I mine with a PS =).

[Codemonkeyx]

Unfortunately I don't think what you seek really exists. The good ore fields (i.e. 7-8-9) are guarded and that is by design. A PS should be able to use powerdown, gravity link, and menace effectively to mine and run.

[Doctor]

If you're technically minded, I already did the step of mapping out every ore field in the game (at least, all of them that I could find using a box search of the entire sector; but keep in mind, sectors can be +-50km vertically, and I did NOT do a box search at the top/bottom of the box, so it's possible I missed some).

 

You'll have to run it yourself as I don't host it anywhere, but the data exists, and can be displayed. You can even add to it and refine your own personal map of what is where. It does not have data about field guardians (but the DB schema does support adding that, with work needed to display that information in the UI). My notes about field guardians were put into the wiki (I think?) so between the wiki (on the sector pages; IE the page for Carp, Endriago, etc) and that mapping tool you should be able to find fields more worth your time.

 

The problem with 7-8-9 fields is that they have too many ores to mine on a single cargo hold. You'll need a fleet to mine them unless you plan to cherry pick, but that's only going to get you a few ores.

 

Also, have a poke in this thread:

it has some goodies related to moving ores from your PS to your mules automatically (one button press to start it). It assumes/only works if you have one mule for certain level ranges of ores. Also, somewhere in my posts is a Python script I wrote that does the tedium of moving partial/full stacks of ore around to your vault characters. Saving you thousands of clicks on the net7 website. :)

 

[Wyverlunder]

@Doctor the link posted was amazing...how do you generate the imgur pictures of the sites in a sector...the rings and clusters, ect

 

[Wyverlunder]

also, having been mining for a bit now...do aa devices not spawn now? or just very rare now? back in 2015-2017 i'd find 1-2 a day....

 

[Gwindor]

AA devices do spawn, but are very rare. I know someone with a lot of dedication towards finding one did not find one in a LOT of time trying "The Grind"

Best chances are after server reset. 

 

https://net7wiki.bmsite.net/index.php?title=AA_Guide

 

[Doctor]

15 hours ago, Wyverlunder said:

@Doctor the link posted was amazing...how do you generate the imgur pictures of the sites in a sector...the rings and clusters, ect

 

 

So the tool is actually a 'website'. It's a bunch of PHP files and some javascript. If you've ever run any kind of web server (apache, nginx, etc) and served up PHP pages that's what is needed. The DB is sqlite, so PHP takes care of the DB layer for you. sqlite won't scale, so if you try to host it for 100s of people it wouldn't work. But uh (looks at player count) I don't think that's an issue. Anyway, once you get your web server and PHP setup (takes about 5 minutes) you can go to your web server and view the pages. As for how I made the screenshots, I was screen shotting a web browser. I just cropped the images.

 

If the idea of running a website scares you because you might get haxxored then just run it on 127.0.0.1 and disable any 0.0.0.0/public IP listening. That will make the website only visible on your local PC. Can't attack a door that doesn't exist.

 

If you're asking how I made the maps inside the web page, I believe I used a 2d canvas object (this is part of basic HTML5). Inside the DB, I recorded the Z-height of all the asteroids as well, so if someone who knows how to use 3D canvas objects/webGL/similar tech rocks up they could actually make a 3d map of all the sectors, so you could see which fields were, for example, +-30km vertically (Lagarto and Ceres come to mind).

 

I mostly did that project as a way to make my first web 2.0 page (everything fully rendered via javascript, 0 full page refreshes). ChatGPT is a pretty good teacher, as I had 0 javascript experience prior to writing the javascript for that project.

 

  

15 hours ago, Wyverlunder said:

also, having been mining for a bit now...do aa devices not spawn now? or just very rare now? back in 2015-2017 i'd find 1-2 a day....

 

 

In all the mining I did for that tool, something like 30,000 asteroids, I found 3 AA devices, IIRC. 2 lvl 3s and 1 lvl 5. They are incredibly rare. I'd assume nerf bat, but I don't know.

Edited March 24 by Doctor

[Wyverlunder]

wow...big time nerf...i used to toss old ones of lower quality becuase no one wanted them...my how things have changed!

 

[garblesoup]

IME there's a number of 7/8/9 fields that are only moderately guarded at best.  Regardless of race-type any miner going for 7+ ores should be able to fly a low sig ship plus good reactor/device combos that allow them to quickly drain each rock/cloud.  Focusing on the same roid-types allows a field to be quickly cleared - and get the bonus - without running out of hold space; I routinely clear 2 fields and then some before filling up.

[Wyverlunder]

@garblesoup I have no issue dealing with guarded fields..my issue is when 4 or 5 of them aggro, and they all respawn within 30 seconds of dying...

i dont even have time to check the loot , let alone mine anything.