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30 minutes ago, Thuvia said:

Really Mouli? Are you really this ignorant? 

 

About what precisely ?

 

The fact that YOU don't know that DEV have player TOON ? 

The Fact that you are trying to impose your best soltution for you and face resistance from others ?

That you still say big 3 when it a not been big 3 for a long time ?

 

That I am caugh in the middle of both side who refuse to talk with each ohers ?

That maybe now you get that he one saying no are DEV player Toon ?

 

34 minutes ago, Thuvia said:

And I'm  voting to remove you as Advocate.

 

Please point to me where the vote is happening I missed it ...

By that I mean there is procedure and no one in charged informed me of a demand for such vote or that I am

to wait for a vote result ...

 

It's entirely your call to ask for one. I gues you actualy have to do it properly.

 

38 minutes ago, Thuvia said:

 You do not seem to realize what that means. 

 

I have a very different perspective then you.  What does it mean accoding to you ? 

 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Thuvia said:

You're not getting it Mouli,  

 

Clearly ( beeing sarcastic here ) , please send me the vote and new agreement by the server wide so that I can 

publish it for all to see ... wait it seem to eb just your words ...

12 minutes ago, Thuvia said:

 the rotation is DONE.

 

As the Advocate I say it's not until a solution is agreed by all.

 

14 minutes ago, Thuvia said:

We will put it up in General, everyone is welcome. We WILL make room. 

 

Who is these we ?

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1 hour ago, Moulinneuf said:

As the Advocate I say it's not until a solution is agreed by all.

 

As a realist, I say its a solution if there's a consensus agreeing that it is.   There's always a few selfish interests that will object.   You just have to decide just how many agreeing is enough to form that consensus.

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38 minutes ago, Zarg said:

 

As a realist, I say its a solution if there's a consensus agreeing that it is.   There's always a few selfish interests that will object.   You just have to decide just how many agreeing is enough to form that consensus.

 

 

I don't call 10-15 people a group consensus on multi guild 200+ player base.

 

There is always people objecting , what we need is an agreement and participation by a majority.

 

As an advocate I dont have to decide anything , I just have to get eveyrone to come togehter and agree on something togheter.

 

See you in 2 week with the same raid complaint or good luck to the next advocate.

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17 hours ago, RedKite said:

Chat log from toon Deborah

 

As you can see I'm in the middle of a raid,

 

Conversation points in bold

 

 

(16):19: 4:39  To daffyduck: can i help you with something?
  (11):19: 4:48  [New Players] TsunamiTE: there was another mission
  (0):19: 4:59  COMPUTER: Darktt is quickly recharging his shields.
  (0):19: 5: 4  COMPUTER: Reeses's weapons slow down.
  (0):19: 5: 8  COMPUTER: Darktt is patching Luckypw's hull.
  (0):19: 5:25  COMPUTER: Disruptor V1.0's Menace use has been interrupted.
  (3):19: 5:30  Daffyduck (private): nope....just looking...why
  (11):19: 5:32  [New Players] TsunamiTE: was it called trock or treat mission/
  (0):19: 5:35  COMPUTER: Janwarrior logged in.
  (11):19: 5:38  [New Players] TsunamiTE: trick
  (0):19: 5:45  COMPUTER: Janwarrior logged out.
  (16):19: 5:51  To Daffyduck: just wondered
  (11):19: 5:55  [New Players] Mouliprowar: mission he most halowed gourd
  (11):19: 6: 9  [New Players] Mouliprowar: you see trick or treat somewhere ?
  (0):19: 6:21  COMPUTER: Luckypw repairs her systems.
  (0):19: 6:26  COMPUTER: Obsolete Model V summons Luckypw.
  (0):19: 6:28  COMPUTER: Darktt is patching Luckypw's hull.
  (0):19: 6:29  COMPUTER: Dadbanditte's weapons slow down.
  (3):19: 6:30  Daffyduck (private): am i doing something wrong
  (0):19: 6:35  COMPUTER: Skullystt logged out.
  (0):19: 6:36  COMPUTER: TolkenJE logged in.
  (0):19: 6:37  COMPUTER: Darktt is patching Luckypw's hull.
  (16):19: 6:43  To Daffyduck: not while you are watching
  (11):19: 6:44  [New Players] TsunamiTE: no  but thought there was a mission u had to collect stuff for the mission
  (0):19: 6:45  COMPUTER: Darktt is patching Luckypw's hull.
  (0):19: 6:51  COMPUTER: Obsolete Model V's Hacking use has been interrupted.
  (0):19: 6:57  COMPUTER: Tsuros logged in.
  (11):19: 7: 3  [New Players] Mouliprowar: yes in ast years from sergeant jones
  (0):19: 7: 3  COMPUTER: Darktt is patching Luckypw's hull.
  (0):19: 7:10  COMPUTER: Skullyjw logged in.
  (0):19: 7:10  COMPUTER: Matahari is hacking Obsolete Model V's systems.
  (5):19: 7:10  Attempt to hack enemy comms has failed!
  (5):19: 7:10  Attempt to hack enemy weapons has failed!
  (0):19: 7:12  COMPUTER: Darktt is patching Luckypw's hull.
  (0):19: 7:14  COMPUTER: Reeses is hacking Obsolete Model V's systems.
  (5):19: 7:14  Enemy communications hacked!
  (5):19: 7:14  Enemy weapons hacked!
  (5):19: 7:14  Enemy engines hacked!
  (11):19: 7:16  [New Players] Mouliprowar: not active at the moment i tried it
  (3):19: 7:18  Daffyduck (private): ahh...so u OWN this place
  (0):19: 7:23  COMPUTER: Darktt is quickly recharging Luckypw's shields.
  (0):19: 7:26  COMPUTER: Lillyraine is quickly recharging her shields.
  (5):19: 7:26  Lillyraine has recharged your shields by 0.02 units.
  (0):19: 7:27  COMPUTER: Darktt is quickly recharging Luckypw's shields.
  (11):19: 7:29  [New Players] TsunamiTE: k
  (2):19: 7:33  Obsolete Model V : Syssss..tem...eeeeeerrrrroooor....Initiate Control.....
  (0):19: 7:33  COMPUTER: Darktt is quickly recharging his shields.
  (16):19: 7:40  To Daffyduck: go careful...
  (0):19: 7:40  COMPUTER: Darktt is increasing his shield capacity.
  (8):19: 7:42  [Guild] TolkenJE: Hello
  (0):19: 7:45  COMPUTER: Obsolete Model V regains chemical deflection.
  (0):19: 7:49  COMPUTER: Moulinneuf [ADV] logged in.
  (0):19: 7:52  COMPUTER: Luckypw makes Dadbanditte's weapons hum..
  (3):19: 8: 1  Daffyduck (private): you can kiss my ass...
  (16):19: 8:12  To Daffyduck: and you can be kicked
  (8):19: 8:14  [Guild] Duffman: lo
  (16):19: 8:18  To Daffyduck: from the game
  (2):19: 8:33  The Controller : What could you think to gain from this hostility? What is driving you to meet your end here?
  (3):19: 8:35  Daffyduck (private): why
  (16):19: 8:53  To Daffyduck: dissent to a dev / member of enb staff
  (0):19: 9: 2  COMPUTER: Daffyduck logged out.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Leaves me wondering if it's worth the time and effort creating new Christmas content, right now I can't be bothered............
 

 

 

Yeah I am sorry, but you clearly egged him on based on this text.

 

1) You first questioned his presence and were aggressive.  (You didn't need to say a word unless he started kill stealing.)   But you felt the need to establish your authority.

2) You abused your DEV privileges.  

           i) Since you aren't logged in as a dev, he isn't dissenting to a staff member.   BECAUSE YOU ARE A PLAYER!   Plus you egged him on.   

          ii) You booted him while on a normal character.  What if the rest of the players could boot each other anytime someone said something they didn't like?

 

       

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As much as I like you thuvia I'm not sure you know what being a ADV means, as far as I can tell it's just a communicator between staff and community. You don't have special powers. 

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I know Bob and yet Mouli has constantly been trying to make Damage take a rotation slot we do not want. And even when Tsunami declared the agreement done he is STILL trying to tell people what to do. He has zero authority. 

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Some Damage INc player don't wan't a rotation spot beacuse they want to run all the new public raid ...

 

No one in charge at Damage Inc as ever said we don't want a spot , they just never tried for one.

 

What Tsunami agreement ? who voted on it ? Damage Inc players only ...  Who say it's done ? oh yes Damage Inc 5 vocal players ...

 

They don't get that they are one side of a coin.

 

They disrepsect the DEV and GM enirely  , make up fantasy rule that we have to guess and also abide by it ...

 

So the Advocate position for them is just a doormat or butler ...

 

BTWif you did not paticpate and showed up to raid Blackmercenary who left BI think your on drug ...

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I think u need to take a chill pill mr advocate.

No i don't want to have rotation spot.

Cause we are doing it public way.

Getting a spot in rotation was newer easy.

Ask Epic about that one.

Get RID of rotation as a whole and do it as a server wide thing instead.

 

Get off your high horse and relax, jesus.

 

Seems u are having a meltdown.

And it all DI's fault blah blah blah.

 

iff u can't handle it step down?

 

 

 

 

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I am not the one saying the raid rotation is done

I am not he one insulting dev ...

I am not the one making the accusation in general in game that Adocate is on drug acusation

That any player who choose not to raid wih Balckmercenary or come when he cal for a raid is on drug..

I am no in Damage INC who as taken over Public raid when they are a big guild and now want to control all the raid

 

And in order to do so have started a poll to remvoe the advocate from the game as not just me the position as it's not neeeded

without it being open to comment.

Because they see me a s the only obstacle to their control goal.

 

EPIC was asked repeatidly for a spot they always said no.

Unlike Damage Inc hey don't try and control all the trigered raid in public and the entire game for  afew players.

 

Your get rid of rotation as not worked before and won't work this time either ...

 

We don't see any other Guild attacking and harassing the dev and GM on there playing toon

We don't seen any other guild insulting and attacking the advocate with lies.

 

Steping down and let you rule like a mafia mob is a choice yes ...

I have many other choices and options.

 

 

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(16):19: 4:39  To daffyduck: can i help you with something?

 

(3):19: 5:30  Daffyduck (private): nope....just looking...why

 

 (16):19: 5:51  To Daffyduck: just wondered

 

 (3):19: 6:30  Daffyduck (private): am i doing something wrong

 

 (16):19: 6:43  To Daffyduck: not while you are watching

 

(3):19: 7:18  Daffyduck (private): ahh...so u OWN this place

 

(16):19: 7:40  To Daffyduck: go careful...

 

  (3):19: 8: 1  Daffyduck (private): you can kiss my ass...

 

(16):19: 8:12  To Daffyduck: and you can be kicked

 

(16):19: 8:18  To Daffyduck: from the game

 

(3):19: 8:35  Daffyduck (private): why

 

16):19: 8:53  To Daffyduck: dissent to a dev / member of enb staff

 

 (0):19: 9: 2  COMPUTER: Daffyduck logged out

 

17 hours ago, Blackmercenary said:

 

 

Yeah I am sorry, but you clearly egged him on based on this text.

 

1) You first questioned his presence and were aggressive.  (You didn't need to say a word unless he started kill stealing.)   But you felt the need to establish your authority.

2) You abused your DEV privileges.  

           i) Since you aren't logged in as a dev, he isn't dissenting to a staff member.   BECAUSE YOU ARE A PLAYER!   Plus you egged him on.   

          ii) You booted him while on a normal character.  What if the rest of the players could boot each other anytime someone said something they didn't like?

 

       

 

 I agree with you Black but he logged out , was not kicked .

 

To the Devs . Please do not think Damage Inc is being disrespectful in any regard . All here have great respect for the work and time that you put in . We are all human and make mistakes on both sides. Do notice that when Daffyduck was informed of who he was dealing with he logged out and nothing else was said . 

 

 

28 minutes ago, Moulinneuf said:

Some Damage INc player don't wan't a rotation spot beacuse they want to run all the new public raid ...

 

No one in charge at Damage Inc as ever said we don't want a spot , they just never tried for one.

 

What Tsunami agreement ? who voted on it ? Damage Inc players only ...  Who say it's done ? oh yes Damage Inc 5 vocal players ...

 

They don't get that they are one side of a coin.

 

They disrepsect the DEV and GM enirely  , make up fantasy rule that we have to guess and also abide by it ...

 

So the Advocate position for them is just a doormat or butler ...

 

BTWif you did not paticpate and showed up to raid Blackmercenary who left BI think your on drug ...

 

 

Mouli u need to present facts . Many have lost respect for because you continually put your spin on the facts when its not actually the case . 

 

As a group Damage INC decided among its active 25 plus ( I am guessing its a lot more but being conservative ) player base that many triggers were being wasted because the guilds in the rotation, aside from public, could not field enough players to complete the raids . When the triggers were killed it was usually because the raid was multiboxed by a few continually or the triggers were killed and raids were left to despawn thereby presenting the illusion of completing the raid . So it was beneficial to a few but not to the majority of the server.

 

Here is a three month example as proof to back up my statement of triggers going  to waste http://damageinc.cryptic.com/raid-trigger-log.txt

Thank you Zargol for the all the work and time that went into this.

 

Our player base is continually increasing as others see the positive benefits of having raids open to all. All can roll on items looted. With the increase in the turnover on all triggers many more raids are being done in a timely manner , many more have the opportunity to win. Damage Inc has the numbers at the time to do this but anyone is welcome to lead. ALL RAIDS ARE OPEN TO ALL and announced in General chat. It is done fairly and without any issues up to now.

 

This will continue in the future regardless of what Mouli says. He has appointed himself as Moderator of a failed rotation which benefited few in the end days. It has seen its time come and go as evidenced.


 

To present  a suggestion to the Devs, such as making the PRS a Pay to Play event would probably end all this drama and bring the community back together again  .  Create an NPC outside . Pay fee. Lock it out when 12 enter. Kick 12 when raid ends. I have no idea if this is possible or any combination of such just throwing it out there.

 

 

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EPIC was asked repeatidly for a spot they always said no.

WRONG.

They wanted to join rotation.

But some of the 3 "big" didn't want that.

 

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Why all the hate towards Damage Inc, Mouli? You probably the most hated Adv in history :) you approaching Pandatrol status with all the negative reputation.

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Many thanks Kyp for your succinct post,

I'd like to reinforce my apologies for not thinking clearly and reacting badly to Daffyducks comments...

 

All the Best...

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