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The name lookatmypp is absolutely appalling and disgusting. I can not believe the staff would let a name such as this one slide for so long. This name could be considered a form of sexual harassment. Also the name chode is gross, I will not even post what that one is because its so disgusting. Spooge is another name that is a homonym but has a very offensive meaning. I am wondering if this is maybe because they are in one of the 3 bigger guilds in the game that they are able to get away with these obviously offensive names? This would be a conflict of interest if any staff members were in one of these guilds and let it slide for so long as I am sure they are aware of the offensive and misogynistic nature of these names. I hope the staff takes this into consideration in the future.

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Spooge actually refers to anything displeasing or unidentifiable, not just the one you've obviously chosen to assign.  Chode was the name of a character on a VERY POPULAR space based animated series.

I'll have to give it to you on the lookatmypp though. While immature it's doubtful the player is trying to harass you into looking at their genitalia.

So are these players all dirty minded or is it just you?

As far as you grasping at straws and implying the staff doesn't know how to do their job. For that, I'll just say that you sir/madam are indeed showing your own true colors.

 

Fly safe,

-Alurra

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It would seem funny to me that a guild name like enbstaph was considered offensive and was banned yet a name like that went "untouched". Still say its a personal vendetta on that one. Guy got banned for that guild name also. Wonder how those names will be treated. I googled the mentioned names, boy thats obvious specially with what the first results are. 

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Entertaining at the very least this thread. You have an sjw(social justice warrior), then you have someone belittling that sjw who seems to have something personal on this. I can see the complaint as legit, a little over the top and blown outta proportion tho. Break out the popcorn ladies and gents, these threads are always interesting.

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So, you're saying it's okay to ban someone because you PERSONALLY feel offended that they made a guild that was a play on words on the STAFF guild, but rather implied the V'rix are an infection in the universe, yet when someone else is offended by the popular slang use (whether intended or not) then it's okay to blow their concerns off especially when their kids are getting ideas from these names... Definitely sounds like a personal vendetta against someone leaving YOUR guild to make something original, obviously better, with an awesome theme and idea behind it. This is further proof to me that some people on the team are not emotionally fit for their jobs.

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On the topic of offensive names, just want to say that I have a JE named Faketaxi. I thought it was a witty name with a double meaning. If you're offended or "triggered" then, well, too bad. While there are probably a few minors, I'm sure the great majority of players are adults and experiencing things in our daily lives that are offensive is part of life in general. And as far as lookatmypp goes, if I had that name, pp wouldve been capitalized LONG ago just for the lol factor. 

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1 hour ago, seanhhs said:

So, you're saying it's okay to ban someone because you PERSONALLY feel offended that they made a guild that was a play on words on the STAFF guild, but rather implied the V'rix are an infection in the universe, yet when someone else is offended by the popular slang use (whether intended or not) then it's okay to blow their concerns off especially when their kids are getting ideas from these names... Definitely sounds like a personal vendetta against someone leaving YOUR guild to make something original, obviously better, with an awesome theme and idea behind it. This is further proof to me that some people on the team are not emotionally fit for their jobs.

Hate to break it to you but most kids already have an idea about those names whether or not they're used in a game with a population of under 200 people worldwide. Kids have access to social media, the internet, and worse, the Disney channel. Yeah, they know already.

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7 hours ago, naso said:

It would seem funny to me that a guild name like enbstaph was considered offensive and was banned yet a name like that went "untouched". Still say its a personal vendetta on that one. Guy got banned for that guild name also. Wonder how those names will be treated. I googled the mentioned names, boy thats obvious specially with what the first results are. 

Actually that guild name would've been banned based on the fact that it is trying to impersonate the emulator staff. Why the owner of the guild got banned would be a matter for the GM's.  Who knows, other than those involved. Otherwise, this particular incident has nothing to do with the one you've mentioned.

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6 hours ago, seanhhs said:

So, you're saying it's okay to ban someone because you PERSONALLY feel offended that they made a guild that was a play on words on the STAFF guild, but rather implied the V'rix are an infection in the universe, yet when someone else is offended by the popular slang use (whether intended or not) then it's okay to blow their concerns off especially when their kids are getting ideas from these names... Definitely sounds like a personal vendetta against someone leaving YOUR guild to make something original, obviously better, with an awesome theme and idea behind it. This is further proof to me that some people on the team are not emotionally fit for their jobs.

Alurra said it before I did. There is an explicit restriction against this in the code of conduct both on the launcher and in the forum on the pdf doc that is in the announcements. This is mainly to protect other players from thinking they are talking to staff when they are not.

The owner received a temp ban, if I recall correctly, for violating the rules and the guild was renamed and/or disbanded.

With respect to the names, do you think we go hunting for people who make plays on it so we can ban them? No, that'd be silly for a team of this size. This type of thing usually requires a report. In the case of the guild name, someone DID report you and that's how we became aware of it. I just did a search of the GM ticket database and see nothing about any of these mentioned names.

Now, emotionally fit for jobs? What jobs? None of these people -- myself included -- are paid for this. We run this as a labor of love.and all the donations go toward the server rent. We -- under my direction to the GMs -- live and die by those Code of Conduct documents. Blacklung leads our GM team and would be the person to reach out to if you feel a GM is being unfair to you. The developers themselves don't touch your accounts by vast majority excluding those of us who write code.

The punishment to this 'staph' guild and its owner was NOT some kind of personal vendetta, but hey, why let reality intrude on the narrative.

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Just so we're clear here.. someone recently PMed me to ask me to stop political talk on the server because they found it offensive. I told them they were welcome to open a ticket or contact a GM if they believed the rules had been violated, but otherwise it would not be done. This being said, people often assume -- especially US citizens -- that the right to free speech our constitution entails that this applies to private companies or groups, it does NOT. This applies to the government so that they cannot suppress your speech.

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Not to help out Kyp (clearly my help is NOT needed) BUT you always have the option to turn a channel off if it gets to much for you.

 

 

Just saying,

Mim

 

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"To be offended is a choice we make; it is not a condition inflicted or imposed on us by someone or something else"          - David A Bednar

"It's now very common to hear people say 'I'm rather offended by that.'  As if that gives them certain rights.  It's actually nothing more... than a whine.  'I find that offensive.'  It has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase.  'I am offended by that.'  Well so fucking what."         - Stephen Fry

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On 11/30/2016 at 1:49 PM, Hobbs said:

"To be offended is a choice we make; it is not a condition inflicted or imposed on us by someone or something else"          - David A Bednar

"It's now very common to hear people say 'I'm rather offended by that.'  As if that gives them certain rights.  It's actually nothing more... than a whine.  'I find that offensive.'  It has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase.  'I am offended by that.'  Well so fucking what."         - Stephen Fry

You should of heard what they said when I suggested renaming Uranus to Urectum. j/k.

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On 11/30/2016 at 8:43 AM, Kyp said:

With respect to the names, do you think we go hunting for people who make plays on it so we can ban them? No, that'd be silly for a team of this size. This type of thing usually requires a report. In the case of the guild name, someone DID report you and that's how we became aware of it. I just did a search of the GM ticket database and see nothing about any of these mentioned names.

During one of the stress tests I had seen a couple "offensive" names similar to a couple of these, may have even been a couple of these.  I in-game pm'd someone on the DEV/GM team (I THINK it may have been AFVet, but not sure) making it clear that while I was not offended I could see how someone could be.  I was simply told that whoever it was I had PM'd would "look into it" and never heard anymore about it.  No official ticket was made at that time

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Although the approach to the original thread might not have been the right one, humor like this should be left in-game as to not offend he/she or others reading this public conversation.  Just saying...

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Will try adding to this thread instead of making a new one. Similar deal, but not quite as flamey as the OP ;)

 

Noticed tonight quite a lot of inappropriate chat (racey/sexual, racist jokes, some swearing, using illegal drugs) going on in General, but when porn links started being shared, that's where I jumped in and asked them to stop - reminded them we do sometimes have kids playing.  Got sassy attitudes, of course, like these type of people usually tend to give when confronted with their behavior.  So... here's the list, below. Asking for a temp ban to start with of 1 week or so, and a warning email from the GM/admins.  In a small/tight community like this we can't afford bad seeds like these.  Thanks in advance:
Skizjd
NikolaTesla
Jacobypp

 

~ 05:00 server time or a few before

 

[edit to change a name]

chat_bak.log

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Apologies for naming a wrong player originally. Forgot to mention drug use.
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Ghent can you attach a copy of your chat log for the time period covered  it will make sure we get all the correct players and handle it correctly.  thank you

 

Should be located in c: programfiles x86/ea game/ earth & beyond/release/chat.exe  just copy and past to a text file then attached it as a reply.

 

 

Thank you 

 

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/release/chat.exe 

 

chat.log would make more sense ;)

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17 hours ago, ghent96 said:

Will try adding to this thread instead of making a new one. Similar deal, but not quite as flamey as the OP ;)

 

Noticed tonight quite a lot of inappropriate chat (racey/sexual, racist jokes, some swearing) going on in General, but when porn links started being shared, that's where I jumped in and asked them to stop - reminded them we do sometimes have kids playing.  Got sassy attitudes, of course, like these type of people usually tend to give when confronted with their behavior.  So... here's the list, below. Asking for a temp ban to start with of 1 week or so, and a warning email from the GM/admins.  In a small/tight community like this we can't afford bad seeds like these.  Thanks in advance:
Skidrow
NikolaTesla
Jacobypp

 

~ 05:00 server time or a few before

Skidrow is mine, I said or did NOTHING risque or posted any links. I merely spoke out against you playing channel police. It was around 2AM. 

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The guy making the complaint has an racist avatar picture of an Asian with "ROR" on it.  That is just pure awesome hypocracy!

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Dosenbrot, Thank you for catching that,  I was not feeling well when I typed that, and had been up about 20 hours so i did not proof read before i pressed enter

 

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On 5/24/2017 at 0:23 AM, Woodstock said:

Ghent can you attach a copy of your chat log for the time period covered  it will make sure we get all the correct players and handle it correctly.  thank you

 

Should be located in c: programfiles x86/ea game/ earth & beyond/release/chat.exe  just copy and past to a text file then attached it as a reply.

 

 

Thank you 

 

Sure, attaching log to my earlier post. Sorry about not attaching earlier.

 

...And, +GoodHumorBoy, I like Jackie Chan. There's nothing racist at all about it.  He embraces his accent and bad english, and comedizes it with great success. Please don't ad hominem or attempt to derail.

 

Skid - speaking out against blatantly wrong things is not "playing chat police".  It is merely standing up for what is right, and speaking out against what is wrong. It is called being a decent human being.  Do you think people should just stay silent when something wrong is going on?  Do you think people should stand and watch while another is beat up or assaulted?  By the way, do you have anything against police officers?

 

Re-reading back... skidrow didn't actually say anything wrong, other than standing up for the offenders, and harassing/sassing in general. My apologies, and I corrected the name in my post above.

 

But, I have to add that the following night, Skid and a few of his 'friends' decided they needed to harass me further in chat as revenge for this report. If you're not over 13, technically, you're not supposed to be playing this game ;p  If you ARE over 13... then act like it.  I'd expect behavior like this on EVE or some CoD game.  EnB is too classy for this kind of revenge attitude. Come on guys.

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6 hours ago, ghent96 said:

Sure, attaching log to my earlier post. Sorry about not attaching earlier.

 

...And, +GoodHumorBoy, I like Jackie Chan. There's nothing racist at all about it.  He embraces his accent and bad english, and comedizes it with great success. Please don't ad hominem or attempt to derail.

 

Skid - speaking out against blatantly wrong things is not "playing chat police".  It is merely standing up for what is right, and speaking out against what is wrong. It is called being a decent human being.  Do you think people should just stay silent when something wrong is going on?  Do you think people should stand and watch while another is beat up or assaulted?  By the way, do you have anything against police officers?

 

Re-reading back... skidrow didn't actually say anything wrong, other than standing up for the offenders, and harassing/sassing in general. My apologies, and I corrected the name in my post above.

 

But, I have to add that the following night, Skid and a few of his 'friends' decided they needed to harass me further in chat as revenge for this report. If you're not over 13, technically, you're not supposed to be playing this game ;p  If you ARE over 13... then act like it.  I'd expect behavior like this on EVE or some CoD game.  EnB is too classy for this kind of revenge attitude. Come on guys.

 

Someone said Pornhub and you had your little snit fit. It was 2 am est and you complained about kids? As for friends yes Nikolatesla is a friend (and also leader of Epic Gamers), I dont really know Jacoby but have no problem with the guy. And yea I gave you some crap, you deserved it for whining. Anyone who joined in did so of their own accord, not at my prompting. 

 

Edit-I've helped a lot of people in this game, and so has Nikolatesla. All I ever see you doing is chat. 

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I don't see any real need for reporting...........after all we are all adults (most of us are over or very close to 50 yrs old i reckon) :D

I have found if i don't like a players attitude or 'potty mouth' just stick them on ignore (or change chat channel for a while) works far better in the long run.

Quite often a players attitude will change when they realise  the majority of the players have them on ignore......or they get fed up of talking to themselves and leave the game.:D

If its harassment , well that's a completely different ball game.

But if you do feel that something has to be brought to the attention of the GM's , send in a ticket (http://support.net-7.org/) and leave it to them to decide the outcome .

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