ok kyp got it working
thank you
im new to win 7 and as you suggested i right clicked the launcher short cut, in the list there was run as admin. with a little shield beside it.
the confusion came as i assumed that meant i was running as admin. turns out this means i can click it as admin.
soo when i clicked it the launcher opend up and started updateing.
thank you for the fast responce
and could you please pass these brown socks to cDel..
they have been under the couch for months 8)