Wildrosey

it also states that the public raids would start with the RD base...  not GOBB, so if that group had been put together, it would have taken it from VGE.  for any of this to even work to begin with ,  follow the raid line up schedule.. 

    thought this was already dealt with and the change over was yesterday?    where is this message group outside of this forum for the vote?    think we have all assumed this was just done and over with and we could all finally just move on

even the big 3 , had their OWN learning curve and had to learn these raids on our own...    wont be any different for the public raids.  you gotta learn somewhere, you wanted the chance to learn, now you got it.  take it and run

regardless of who went after BBG..  i only forsee this being an issue even more, if this is attempted every week where it affects all of us in the big 3 not just static.  then that means things are free for all if that is the case.  (not saying that is the case as of yet..  because supposedly things are being worked out but i reserve judgement on that one). 

what is actually a shame is that this has not already been handled and EG should already be in the rotation.  wayyy back in this thread when it started are several posts from various people in the big three stating anyone who can get the people together can attempt any raid out there..     now we have another guild that can..  and we have all this stink about it,   should be pretty cut and dry in my opinion,    can they do the raid and accomplish it.  yes.  there is our answer.    we are all adults here (least most of us)  and should be able to share our toys...

i thought we were all past this petty bickering.  its this petty bickering that fuels the fires and makes people like me not want to bother playing.    everyone just needs to get the heck over it and move the heck on (in polite terms)

i am game for it.  we need to get the rest of our own guild on board though, i have not been playing much as of late because of working alot of OT, and just needing to get away from the stress.  lol stress from a game.  yikes.  its about time we ALL get back to having some fun. 

when it comes to smaller guilds it still boils down to them getting the manpower to do it.  hence the reason this issue has been between the 3 big guilds, cause the little ones dont even try to attempt it and havent spoken up about it either. 

from what i can see...  you can dish it but you sure cant take it Sharpe.  you sit over there saying everyone's bashing static and you sit there and rant and rant.  do you speak for your guild leaders?  do you represent your whole guild in ALL of these comments posted in this thread?  if so. .  i would say your not representing your own guild very well.   

agreed Efi.  good summary Sleven!

there is no name calling.  no one has cussed at you .  but the conversation is not putting you in a good light...  so lock the thread!  <eye roll>    

i saw who was there...     so NO bubble to burst.    guess we each have our OWN rose colored glasses on then huh.      and VGE does not have a GM in our guild so dont know where that is coming from.    shady tactics are what are giving you a bad rep, your ACTIONS are showing it.  we already know your word means nothing right now.   it really shows that you guys really really need communicate amongst yourselves in your own guild and actually ALL be on the same page.

and Gropo made an excellent observation:   1. Killing the trigger and owning it - Makes sense in theory, but can be, has been and will be exploited. Let's be serious, this will simply turn into the three guilds designating a cloaked jen to sit at each trigger, take the kill instantly then worry about getting enough people there. Tell me you don't see this coming if this is the stance?       cause this is exactly what happened yesterday. 

you got the trigger, yes.    but does not mean it was yours.  is no friggen way you could have killed the rest with , what, not even a group there??    you dont kill the trigger unless you have your groups behind you to back you up once the raid starts.  anyone can kill teach.     its tactics like this..  that are BS.   you did not have a full group there, unless your fleet was cloaked... 

ok.  i might change my mind to Pecan Pie, and its Bloody Riz's fault!