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Same, server down. Also, Net-7.org is down with this error "Error connecting to database 'Net7'". Posting here because the help system for Net-7 is through Net-7. Gluck with the fixes all, hate that this happened on a weekend for you!

I have that problem with 1 char on a solo account. It loses sync constantly. I have two other accounts with multiple chars each, they don't have any problems at all. I use the same application installation for all three accounts too. Based on mine's symptoms, it would most likely be a local problem with the char. Is there anything we can do to clear up a character's files on the client side? Edit: I tried moving the char to a completely new account. It still shows desync symptoms, especially when grouped with my other two chars. They don't show any issues, even when the problem char is grouped and having issues.

On a related note, how can the music files be played outside of EnB? Do the packed files need to be extracted into the original music formats? I'd just like to run the music as background sound for work Thanks for any help!

Like the title says, it's a workaround for the 2020 Valentine's Day event, and other events if needed. +up to show your support!

Hey I suddenly had monster head! and so did a guildie! Anyone know why? I did pass a Soul Reaper in warp this session, would that have done it?

Look in technical support? that's where these posts should always be, right?

I don't know what inv-300 means, but I was playing fine last night, logged off, tried to log back in and suddenly I can't. The Net-7 client starts and runs fine, shows people on the server, I click Play and it hangs for 15 seconds before starting the game, and I can't log into the game - the client freezes for like 30 secs and I get the bad message. Edit: aha, found the check for it in Help, it says "unable to connect to the remote server". So yeah, inv-300 here too.

Holy crap you guys have game account password resets all set up on Net-7! ...never mind! hehe

[quote name='Peakahboo' timestamp='1341474206' post='60157'] Wootage, go ahead & delete your chars/ accounts. its all good. hate to see you go, you are an asset to the community ( [/quote] Thanks Peak! That's nice of you to say, usually what I am described as has a couple fewer letters Activating gate, jump in 3...2...1...<blip>

Thank you Zack and Riz, I will go ahead and do the deletions as soon as Peak has cleared the chars I turned over. It was easier to do that than have him make temp vault alts to hold the stuff from mine. Peak, can you drop a message here when you're done? To everyone else, it's ok. I long ago learned that the only thing you get out of a game is enjoyment playing it. So I can start at L1 and (provided the game is designed properly) have just as much fun playing as at L100. Besides, you guys do know that there will be a player wipe before Live right? Lol at worrying about stuff on chars in test

Making a clean transition for RL reasons. Would it be possible to get an account deletion? Already taken care of things in game, guild bank picked up some stuff Take care all! W

[quote name='Terrell' timestamp='1341241725' post='60008'] Now I do like a variation of your idea Wootage, in the form of smuggling missions. Not sure how it would best be implemented, but it could start with factions like Anseria, RD, Chavez, Renegade Progen, but ultimately include the major factions as well. Wouldn't really be a PvP type of thing though, instead you have to get x item to an NPC hiding in a particular sector, without being caught. Gates would be safe areas in each sector, since you can't avoid the gates in or out in most sectors. If you're successful you get Explore & Trade XP and faction from the sponsor, if you get caught, the mission fails, and you get negative faction with whomever caught you. [/quote] Here you go - https://forum.enb-emulator.com/index.php?/topic/7058-jobmission-brainstorming/ - . That's a great idea to add to Ryle's missions thread.

[quote name='will' timestamp='1341160748' post='59968'] Such tactics were feasible and used before mobs began instantly turning on us to shoot, but that's not a tactic for missiles, its a tactic for beams and projectiles. Missiles are also currently denied one of their tactics due to how mobs turn though. There's a reason terran's have access to the Satyr devices, so with their high speed and maneuverability they can run circles around a mob without ever getting in their line of site, while close enough to use their skills, and shooting them without facing them. This currently isn't possible, because mob's don't turn, they just count to a number and instantly face you where ever you are, reducing their maneuverability will increase the count, but they will always get a shot off every time the count finishes. [/quote] Actually I'm seeing turning action on everything I fight. I've been making them turn and using my maneuverability to make them stop and turn the other way just to get more time in their blind spot. I had no idea there were "countdown-spin" mobs. I would expect those to be fixed up though, the devs have said there's a lot to be done with mobs. Re missile versus beam / projectile tactics, I have to disagree. Real-world missile tactics are to point the missile at the target so it can acquire its own lockon, then shoot it. They're exactly like beam and projectile tactics in EnB (which in the real world are typically mounted on turrets). EnB's missile tactics are not like that because of the 360 lock-on, but I'm proposing they should be for the sake of better gameplay. I have found one big problem with my proposal, but since it affects every combat in game, I'm making it a separate suggestion. Edit: actually, I think it's a bug. The thing where anything fired hits at any range, even after warping off. I think this is the major underlying factor in Terrans not wanting to come within range at all. If you can't outrun what's fired at you, then hit-and-away combat, regardless of the range, is the same as tanking. Fix this bug and Terrans will be the champs of hit-and-away tactics.

[quote name='Bloody Riz' timestamp='1341166243' post='59971'] I only see one potential issue with this idea. Will the PvP jobs be marked as such, or will someone just running jobs find themselves flagged for something they did not bargain for? [/quote] [quote name='Terrell' timestamp='1341167925' post='59973'] Good point, if I'm doing a delivery with my travel gear in, combat is the last thing on my mind, simply getting the item & carrying it to it's destination is what matters. Not to mention, you're vulnerable at all undockings/gatings, as any opponents would be able to see you before you can do anything. Once you're in warp, you can't be stopped. [/quote] Doh, did I not make that clear enough? I'll edit the post. Of course the missions would be marked as PvP. The whole point is a siloed system to allow PvP, but restrict it just to people who have deliberately chosen to engage in it, AND for a limited time. That way your characters can go walk on the wild side when you want, and still do everything else in game without fear of PvP consequences (accidental / griefing damage in groups, grudges, etc.). Thanks for pointing that out

[quote name='Sleven.' timestamp='1341118821' post='59950'] I can see that in being a problem, because your talking about taking away the best Terran tactical advantage... [/quote] Well, I'm not sure why Terrans need all of those tactical advantages to win. Up there I posted a technique that doesn't need a 360 degree firing arc, and I did it with short-range beams against superior CL opponents (with the same weapons). With ML range, its way easier, you have whole kilometers of closing time to make your firing ... turn, I guess. Your range is way superior to beams and projectiles, and equivalent or superior to any other mobs missile range (disregarding raid mobs again, tuning those is easier than tuning the whole rest of the game to avoid tuning them). And I should point out, missile-firing mobs would also have this altered, so the six o'clock position would apply to everything. That would sort out a major issue with balancing mobs against the different races, as now the races weaker in combat can use their blind-spot tactics against missile mobs as well. And to me (remember this is imo only) it was a lot more fun than putting on cruise control and listening to the hypnotic sound of missile spam. My test TE now has missiles and it's boring old kite mode for exps again. Nobody gets a shot at me, ever, and its' just an exps / ammo costs over time function again. *Just a note, I'm still doing a modified version of the firing-run tactic with my Jenq. No CC, follow, fire, CC, fire, loot for me. Instead, I kite the mobs off of the spawn, CC, and turn in for a run as the mobs are turning away. The weapons autofire at max range and if I time the speed right, I get the second CC-buffed shot at point-blank range. Then instead of turning away or cloaking, I overrun into their blind spot, reverse for a third shot and overrun again while they're turning, then while they're turning yet again to get their weapons on me, fly uncloaked out of range to keep the kite going. If I do it right, I take a couple of shots on the way in and none at all during the overruns and disengagement. Only if I do it wrong (fail to hit the blind spot, fail to turn the right way to stay in the blind spot during the backshot, or fail to get out of range before they can get me in their firing arc) does my shield even feel the hits. No problemo at all, even with a group chasing me I'm owning them one at a time. But I know. Hitting follow and cycling CC and firing is more efficient, and I can just sit in the middle of the group and kill them all one-by-one with no risk. Therefore my exps and loot over time ratio is much better and I could be proud of myself for getting the most out of my playtime (I guess). But the first rule of a game "be fun to play", and flying my ship as if it's actually in combat is hella more fun that just pushing the buttons in the least-effort / most-rewards manner.

A different mechanism for PvP: Use the Jobs system and let more than one person take the samejob (edit: clearly marked for PvP, or from the dedicated PvP jobs tab) . Everyone who takes the job is flagged for PvP with those other people for the duration of the job. Since the jobs system has levels and location built in, you get rid of all level and environment balance issues right off, leaving only class balance issues. Since its faction-based, you have the basis for tying it to canon and giving it context, the way the original game was supposed to (faction controlled whether you had docking rights at stations, for example). As a bonus, the jobs often take place in populated areas and therefore people can come watch. Got a mission to pick up diplomats for your faction at F7? The crowd can turn out and watch the show. As another bonus, as the jobs system evolves, there's a built-in change-management mechanism for you to use to ensure that PVP evolves in a positive direction. Just wanted to put my .02 in. PvP has screwed up many a good game with poor implementation, and I think a PvP Jobs system would satisfy everyone's needs without impacting the PVE side of the game.

Here's an idea based on my playtest. Change MLs so they lock and fire like any other weapons - from the front. You can target and turn them on autofire, but they won't fire unless you turn to face the target for a moment. I found in my test above (using beams with both the JE and the beginning TE) that it was the timing and manueverability when I turned to get the shot off that determined whether I took hits or not. If I was good, I got away untouched. If I messed up, I got hit and it was up to my speed to get me back out of range. It was easier than it sounds though. The client shoots for you, all you have to do is execute a circle at the right range and with the right timing. This benefits manueverable ships, which is supposed to be a Terran strength but is meaningless now. It adds at least a basic element of skill to Terran play, and it works well with the longer-cycle time / harder-hitting weapons suggestion. It still supports kiting as well, as your cycle time determines how long you have until it's time to turn again. And frankly, it makes sense. Homing missiles generally use their own targeting to lock onto a target before they're fired. Having them just shoot from any direction at any time is way off of even fictional technology.

If this is the place for Portal suggestions, I put in one for a tabular read on vault and inventory contents to help with management. Here's the [url="https://forum.enb-emulator.com/index.php?/topic/7117-vault-and-inventory-item-list-for-net-7-portal/"]link on the suggestion thread[/url] The purpose is to give a list that people can copy and paste into a spreadsheet, or just into a forum post on their guild site or something.

Thanks for the update Rolo. Working with Winlose is more lose than win ime There's always some dumb niggling thing that causes a major pileup for no discernable reason.

[quote name='Overtkill' timestamp='1341084609' post='59918'] I would like to see someone on the dev team chime in on what is going on/the state of whats happening with the server. [/quote] It would be nice just to know that they have been notified. The server can be down all they need it to be, beta or not, it's still in Test in a lot of ways, and everyone understands the devs have lives that come first. But even just a notice that people have the message in their inbox would reassure everyone, I think.

[quote name='Aru' timestamp='1341068078' post='59888'] <snip for brevite> [/quote] FYI, I started in MMOs when an Even mob really meant "he has a 50% chance of kicking your @ss. Make one mistake, OR he gets lucky rolls, and you're prolly gonna die. Shouldabroughtagroupstupid. ". So I am all for balancing ANY class that can solo ANYTHING above their level. If your PW can really stand up to a CL17 at CL5 in face-to-face combat, I'm down for fixing that problem too. I just haven't played a PW recently so I don't have the knowledge to make any suggestions. I just want to make it clear, I am not picking on Terrans. I just made a thread and then joined this one to highlight the problem I see specifically with Terrans after playing one in the past to CL30s and now playing (well, playTESTing) another. Since I have a couple of Jenqs, I am in other threads pointing out how combat cloak let my CL10 JE solo every CL15 in a 6-mob group without any risk, and offering suggestions about fixing THAT little issue. Re your suggestions, I am totally cool with everything you said. If Terrans need shield recharge buffs to survive fighting within an equal level mob's range, let's do it. If they need increased missile damage at shorter ranges to balance out decreased damage at longer ranges, let's do it. If they need a Ludicrous Speed device so they can zoom straight down a mob's throat for a firing run and overrun them into the mob's blind spot to disengage, let's do it. Whatever makes the Terrans (or any race) kick@ss fun to play, I'm down for. Just a note, MLammo ranges start at 4.8k. L1 ML-X1 explosive rocket, the one the intro guys have you build for yourself. Hence my suggestion that maybe the ranges should scale with equipment level. But maybe the ranges, including the amount of equipment buff applied, should scale with skill level like the damage does now? That way the high-end content is unaffected, but the low-mid level gets a big balance pass. I still favor bigger hits at a longer cycle time though. Progens should be DPS kings, but Terrans should have the knockout punches that are big enough to cancel the recharge time. Just imo ofc. *another note ofc I went looking for the Harrier engine. It's the recommended one for TE, everyone in chat will tell you that. I agree it would be ideal for playtesting if we just took whatever starting gear we got and tried things, but the current environment just dumps the optimal builds on you. TE gets sent right to Zwei/ Witberg on missions, and there's an AP gate right there, so I said to myself "hey, it's an easy hop to Adriel/Parcheezi from here. I'ma go get my intro combat gear right now with the 13k creds left over from building my L2 launchers". I have the engine built to 200% now, plus a Supergiant and a Model X (100% still), but given that the ML range starts at 4.8k, I will bet I can strip down to basic equipment and beat his @ss again any time.

When discussing guild vaults in chat the other day, I had the idea that it would be helpful to be able to get a straight list of the stuff so it could be managed easier for guild use. A list in a table that can be copied and pasted is all that would be needed, although a .csv download would be a nice touch. If the extra effort to put sorts in seems worthwhile, I'm all for that too, but atm I think everyone has some sort of spreadsheet that they could use to sort things with, then upload the file / copy and paste into a guild forum post. The data need not be extensive but it would be important to get the basics of item / type / level / restrictions. Additional info such as who has the recipe would be good too, but not essential. Thanks for all of your hard work on the Portal and the Emulator! W

Kaboom, login server down for me. "Connection to the global server failed" and client exits. Tried for a few minutes, no luck.

[quote name='Crichton' timestamp='1341037372' post='59859'] <snip> for brevity [/quote] [quote name='Logane' timestamp='1341056869' post='59874'] <snip> for brevity [/quote] I agree with what both of you are saying, and Crichton's remark about mobs is a good point. We're all on about how to balance the combat, it's just that there are 3 completely different playstyles hard-coded by race, and only one set of mobs. But those are all over the place on range and speed, so it's a fair mess to even try to sort out. I did make this post just to see if one concept for one race would fly as a solution. Playtesting a TE and helping other TEs find good exps in the last few days has me thinking that the Terrans are going to be hardest to balance. Cloak and mob AI with regard to it are two connected issues, so the Jenq issues are all in a box to be looked at. Progens have a single playstyle with clearly defined mechanics, and when they vary from it their ships limit them, so their balance is all contained in another box. But the range advantage for Terrans puts them literally right out of the box. How do you adjust mobs to fight something that, as Crichton said, were designed to NOT be fought at all? (I'm limiting my scope to non-raid mobs, as those have special capabilities). Even with a CL limit as Crichton suggests, isn't there supposed to be risk in fighting at all? Or, is adding a buff to all mobs even realistically possible? I have heard that mobs need to be adjusted MANUALLY, and if so, that seems like a pretty crazy amount of work. I think that's why I and Log have a focus is on adjusting the Terran playstyle. We're looking for a push-button solution instead of trying to balance the entire game's worth of combat content around them, and still keep it balanced for the other two races. There's got to be some way that Terrans can use missiles and still be at risk of losing a fight.

[quote name='Aru' timestamp='1340998830' post='59837'] im outa here since i cant here the Terrans can hit at 8k thas tooooo long wine anymore (and play my PW she has almost same stuff for Progen as my TE, and can only hit mobs without penalty at 6.5.- 7.2 k range at all weapons). last word for this thread: Get used to it .. since it was so in life and (hopefully) will get to alpha/beta life again. [/quote] be as p'o'd as you want, suggestions are what a Suggestion forum is for. As I've said before, it's not all about raiding, 99% of the game is not raiding. Your PW wasn't killing CL17 at CL5, was it?