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How Do You Feel About The Community Of E&b?


How Would You Rate the E&B Community  

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  1. 1. How is The E&B Family?

    • Kind and Helpfull
      36
    • No Community Support
      2
    • I have issues with some people
      2
    • I dont interact outside my Guild
      2


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Understanding the options are Black/White  But interested in the opinions of the community.

 

I haven't seen any 'Drama' in awhile so I felt it a good time to ask this.  I see new people in chat all the time, yet they soon vanish. At times chat is non-existent and Ill put something up just to see if I have crashed or not.

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January, 2013
I am sorry to say that this game is just to fun for me now.

I don't think I can continue to have this much fun any more.

 

The mobs behaviour is causing me to Innovate, adapt and Stratgize causing me to use my brain and adding to the fun and helping me forget my day a work..

 

I can't believe how excited I get when I get the Drop I was hopeing for, this is unexceptible.

 

I wish my guild members would stop helping me get the builds I need when they aren't busy.

 

The new builds that are in game and the new ones that will follow, will unfortunatly give me something to look forward to in the future.

 

The fact that the GMs help me/us when we need them is really sad, they really do help keep us on our path of happieness. The DEVs listen to our input and talk amongst themselves and sometime put our suggestion in our game. Whats up with That?

The Beta's working in the shadows and behind the scenes take time out of their day to test the DEVs changes for us, this is just wrong.

 

Again, I am sorry I will continue to play this game for a long time to come.

 

So without further ado, I will see you in game.

 

Semper Fi !

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while my vote was "Kind and Helpful" I have to point out that there will always be exceptions to the rule.  For instance, a couple months ago I had managed to get my hands on a full line of loot only beams, I mapped them and then offered them to someone I had seen on Market channel who was also mapping weapons.  (S)he replied "Whatever, I could kill you with one shot."  I have ignored this person's calls for assistance since, but they are still not on my "Ignore List" in game.  I will not drag that person through the mud but their calls for help will remain unheeded by me.

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I would say to the "new players gone quickly", being a person that went on vacation for a good long while and have now returned, I would point out that the quicker that a new player discovers TS and the help they can get thru this the better.  Not only specific items are helped thru, but new strong friendships have been formed.

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All in all i would say this is a great community , i have made a lot of new friends through this game ( and sadly lost a couple :( ). Occasionally someone comes along and rocks the boat , but is that a bad thing ? I think not . Long may this Emu continue :)

 

 

Ps........ Phorlaug your post is just awesome :)

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It is time for me to weigh in on the “elephant” in the room. There has been a few argumentative posts lately referencing conflicts with the “Big Three” and or developers.

 

I myself had a run in a while back with a content developer... who IMHO mistook changing mob quantity and changing mob behavior to that of actually adding content. I tried to fight the good fight but was shot down early in the discussion and just left the game.

 

I still frequent the forums as it is hard to really leave my first mmorpg. I was a bit surprised that someone who was doing botting (as far as I know it is allowed) and targeted by a Content developer and not a GM for disciplinary action.

 

Please understand I am not taking a side one way or another on the use of botting. Personally I never understood the need to play more than one character at a time. But as long as it is allowed to play multiple characters AND to robo mine, there needs to be a method to send out notices to ALL that player's characters prior to killing off the suspected bot character. It is easy to miss text in chat and if playing more than one character...well you see the point.

 

 

So wall o text aside, I am suggesting we set up some form of Grievance arbitration.

 

 

"Grievance arbitration is a system created for collective bargaining relationships

that provides the parties with a procedure for final and binding resolution of their

disputes that arise over the interpretation, administration, application or alleged

violation..."

 

http://www.duhaime.org/LegalDictionary/G/GrievanceArbitration.aspx

 

Instead of just taking the attitude of “We don't get paid” so we do what we want. To possibly the aggrieved may possibly (although not likely ;)) have a valid point and should be heard.

 

Details for this process can be worked out fairly easily as there are really only two players that HAVE to be involved. As for others that will make the final decision thay can be pulled from both the player base as well as staff.

 

 

 

Just saying,

Mim

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I myself had a run in a while back with a content developer... who IMHO mistook changing mob quantity and changing mob behavior to that of actually adding content. I tried to fight the good fight but was shot down early in the discussion and just left the game.

 


 

Yea I remember this issue with the multiples of Bio- Extractors in Lagarto.

Turns out it was just a server bug and after the next restart it was back to normal.

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The community is a small group of friends who have their own beliefs and ways of doing things, Nothing wrong with that i guess, With a smaller group of new players trickling in , As long as said new players conform to the beliefs of the few players at the top of the "pecking list in the emu galaxy" all is well.

 

Its sad in a way but it is what its become , And nothing anyone can do about it now or it will spark rage and anger from the few at the top. Better to keep the peace.

 

I wish they could see their that something is needed to change , More people are leaving the emu day after day no ones replacing them.

 

The games fine it has potential, But the community in the past has shown its complete intolerance and inflexibilty to change, Which is fine in general their friendly because the few who still play actively all agree with each other, But i wish they could increase their tolerance and flexibility not enough people agree with them.

 

Which is why there are far less people logging in anymore from when the emu started and it will continue to get lower.

 

I knew 17 people playing this game when the emu started from live (including me) All have gone now completely except me , You see people with opinions , good opinions shot down in moments by the community , Because their way or no way, And their clearly wrong one look at the galaxy and the ammount of people in it anyone can see their wrong, New people with new ideas need to be listened to,

 

The excuse of summer was used for many years for people leaving it was never the reason, As for now that can't be used anymore as the numbers are equally low in winter months.

 

The people of emu old need to lose their influence on the emu they got it wrong, Badly wrong.

 

I say i havent gone but i havent logged in the game in some time , I saw people arguing , and people who have way to much influence arguing back that because it was their opinion essentially they were right , Have they been here since the emu began ,  Seen how many people have left? . having the loudest voice doesnt make you right. Just means you attack anyone who disagrees with you so no one confronts you they just leave.

 

And you end up with a tiny playerbase.

 

I am not to worried if you dont like this but its the truth.

 

The community isn't as great as people would want you to believe unless you agree with that consensus of a few key names in game.

 

I'm glad someone had the balls to say this.

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It is time for me to weigh in on the “elephant” in the room. There has been a few argumentative posts lately referencing conflicts with the “Big Three” and or developers.

 

I myself had a run in a while back with a content developer... who IMHO mistook changing mob quantity and changing mob behavior to that of actually adding content. I tried to fight the good fight but was shot down early in the discussion and just left the game.

 

I still frequent the forums as it is hard to really leave my first mmorpg. I was a bit surprised that someone who was doing botting (as far as I know it is allowed) and targeted by a Content developer and not a GM for disciplinary action.

 

Please understand I am not taking a side one way or another on the use of botting. Personally I never understood the need to play more than one character at a time. But as long as it is allowed to play multiple characters AND to robo mine, there needs to be a method to send out notices to ALL that player's characters prior to killing off the suspected bot character. It is easy to miss text in chat and if playing more than one character...well you see the point.

 

 

So wall o text aside, I am suggesting we set up some form of Grievance arbitration.

 

 

"Grievance arbitration is a system created for collective bargaining relationships

that provides the parties with a procedure for final and binding resolution of their

disputes that arise over the interpretation, administration, application or alleged

violation..."

 

http://www.duhaime.org/LegalDictionary/G/GrievanceArbitration.aspx

 

Instead of just taking the attitude of “We don't get paid” so we do what we want. To possibly the aggrieved may possibly (although not likely ;)) have a valid point and should be heard.

 

Details for this process can be worked out fairly easily as there are really only two players that HAVE to be involved. As for others that will make the final decision thay can be pulled from both the player base as well as staff.

 

 

 

Just saying,

Mim

Hmmm. I underlined that one statement, Mim because unattended macros' never have and never will be acceptable. It they are attended macro's then fine, so be it, however, when you go off to work and leave your group of toons online and 'playing' the game by themselves, that is not acceptable.

 

As far as being targeted by a content dev or a GM. Both are part of the emulator team. I guess I fail to see your point about the person in question being caught either by a Cdev or a GM because if they were 'kicked' from the server for unattended macros, it's a clear violation of the rules no matter who caught them. I should also point out that if they were only kicked off the server, it was likely to stop the unattended macro. Only a GM has the ability to 'ban' a player for multiple infractions and if this person was banned, it was probably because they had multiple infractions ...

 

Just sayin' ;)

 

Fly Safe

 

Alurra

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Alurra,

 

I'm not trying to pick a fight but...

 

What I was trying to say is that if one is playing multiple characters AND using a macro to mine with one of them...missing a communication from a dev or GM is or could be understandable... Not saying that IS what happened but, there should be some method for the player to argue that point, other than take it on the chin.  

 

Using the public mass message tool to warn the macro user (shame them if nothing else) prior to killing them off, seems a good alternative to assuming they are ignoring or AFK (mostly) on that character. .

 

 

Or better yet make it unacceptable in game to macro even if attended.  Seems as though this would clear up this very murky rule...

 

Annnnnnnnd ... If BL is the final word on this perhaps it should be reported to him prior to any punitive action is taken on the player in question.  

 

 

Rambling thoughts of a mad man,,

Mim

 

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Personally I don't agree with any macroing however we allow 'Attended' macros.  I understand 'Attended' to mean being able to respond to anything that happens on your avatar at any time.  If you are multiboxing then your avatar is unattended while you are playing another avatar, even if only for a few seconds.  This would be my argument for booting any avatar I believed to be macroing and from whom I got no response.  Very strict I know and most other members of staff are likely to be more lenient

 

Rolo

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Alurra,

 

I'm not trying to pick a fight but...

 

What I was trying to say is that if one is playing multiple characters AND using a macro to mine with one of them...missing a communication from a dev or GM is or could be understandable... Not saying that IS what happened but, there should be some method for the player to argue that point, other than take it on the chin.  

 

Using the public mass message tool to warn the macro user (shame them if nothing else) prior to killing them off, seems a good alternative to assuming they are ignoring or AFK (mostly) on that character. .

 

 

Or better yet make it unacceptable in game to macro even if attended.  Seems as though this would clear up this very murky rule...

 

Annnnnnnnd ... If BL is the final word on this perhaps it should be reported to him prior to any punitive action is taken on the player in question.  

 

 

Rambling thoughts of a mad man,,

Mim

 

 

 

I think you will find, that anyone who is caught doing this is given more than ample opportunity to answer on the character doing the work. Getting kicked off the server with the ability to log back in immediately is NOT punitive. Punitive would be banning them, and that is realm of BL.

 

Public messages, would be frowned up, simply because that would be putting them into the spotlight and opening them up to ridicule, which would be directly against the TOS.

 

Since attended macros have never really been against the rules, I suspect the team is not going to look to change that any time soon.

 

I am sure BL is getting reports as to what happens, when it happens and why it happens. Not much is done without follow up and follow through from what I've seen. When he gets the reports, I'm fairly sure he looks them over to see the who/what/why/where and how of it then makes a decision as to whether the player in question is warranted more than just a simple kick to the desktop. Those decisions are the ones that are punitive, not the kick from the server from a Cdev or any other dev.

 

Anyway, this isn't really the thread for this kind of a discussion, but I did want to air my viewpoint about what you said.

 

Fly Safe

 

-Alurra

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Well my opinion here might be a bit outdated because I haven't played from years but when I WAS playing - it was just glorious. I will risk saying - the best I have ever experienced. I hope this did not changed over the years :) But checking the pool votes... I think I can rest assured.

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